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Bale was way better as Batman, I actually think Keaton was a better Bruce Wayne. Keaton had Wayne's more personal side, Bale never let Wayne show his personal side. Keaton as Wayne way great because he owned Wayne's personal demons, and he allowed himself to have Wayne show his darkside, were as Bale was just the cocky jerk Wayne, Bale had tons more swag but didn't let you seen Wayne as who he is. As for Batman, visually, Bale had a way better Batman, he also had like 40 pounds on Keaton. This allowed for a more believable Batman, and Bale allowed for Batman to enter that grey area that Batman always does, that makes you think his crossing the edge were as Keaton's Batman didn't seem to be someone that will take it all the way to the edge.
Quote from: M Dogg for Obama on July 27, 2008, 06:18:26 PMBale was way better as Batman, I actually think Keaton was a better Bruce Wayne. Keaton had Wayne's more personal side, Bale never let Wayne show his personal side. Keaton as Wayne way great because he owned Wayne's personal demons, and he allowed himself to have Wayne show his darkside, were as Bale was just the cocky jerk Wayne, Bale had tons more swag but didn't let you seen Wayne as who he is. As for Batman, visually, Bale had a way better Batman, he also had like 40 pounds on Keaton. This allowed for a more believable Batman, and Bale allowed for Batman to enter that grey area that Batman always does, that makes you think his crossing the edge were as Keaton's Batman didn't seem to be someone that will take it all the way to the edge.I thought Bale did show his more personal side in both Begins and TDK, specifically whenever he would talk to Alfred.
And Keaton did a terrible job
The OG Batman is nostalgic. It reminds us of our childhood which is why we all like it a lot. The Dark Knight is clearly the better movie though. I even dusted off my old VHS copy of Batman and watched it the other day just to be sure.
the dark knight > batman begins > batman (1989)i've never really liked any of the first 4 (batman, batman returns, batman & robin, batman forever) as they were quite campy and gay. jack didnt portray the joker, he was jack playing jack in makeup. the joker is meant to be scary, terrifying and make your kids have nightmares. heath got that accomplished. the joker killing batmans parents? yeah, lets just make some shit up. what about alfred bringing vicky vale down to the batcave? yeah, why not!the first 4 weren't even batman movies, they simly took the batman character and made some shit up. nolan knows what he's doing, from batman begins it was evident that he was a fan of the source material. i can live with little things (league of shadows vs league of assassins et al), but to simply make shit up as you go along is wack.the dark knight gets my vote
Quote from: The Watcher (BOSTON CELTICS: 2008 NBA CHAMPS) on July 27, 2008, 05:50:05 PMthe dark knight > batman begins > batman (1989)i've never really liked any of the first 4 (batman, batman returns, batman & robin, batman forever) as they were quite campy and gay. jack didnt portray the joker, he was jack playing jack in makeup. the joker is meant to be scary, terrifying and make your kids have nightmares. heath got that accomplished. the joker killing batmans parents? yeah, lets just make some shit up. what about alfred bringing vicky vale down to the batcave? yeah, why not!the first 4 weren't even batman movies, they simly took the batman character and made some shit up. nolan knows what he's doing, from batman begins it was evident that he was a fan of the source material. i can live with little things (league of shadows vs league of assassins et al), but to simply make shit up as you go along is wack.the dark knight gets my vote+1...great point.Dark Knight > Batman Begins > Batman
Batman '89 fucking sucks. It sucked in 89 and it still sucks now. It's not even close to anything Nolan has done with Batman in the last two films, whether we are judging as a portrayal of Batman or as a film in general. Batman was a cheezy, cookie cutter, paint by numbers action film with zero going for it. Dark Knight is a masterful film worthy of high praise. Seriously, comparing Dark Knight or Begins to anything Burton did is like comparing Batman '89 to the 60s TV show (except at least Adam West and the boys knew they were bein campy. I think Burton actually thought he was making a dark film).
Quote from: Shallow on August 11, 2008, 02:11:02 PMBatman '89 fucking sucks. It sucked in 89 and it still sucks now. It's not even close to anything Nolan has done with Batman in the last two films, whether we are judging as a portrayal of Batman or as a film in general. Batman was a cheezy, cookie cutter, paint by numbers action film with zero going for it. Dark Knight is a masterful film worthy of high praise. Seriously, comparing Dark Knight or Begins to anything Burton did is like comparing Batman '89 to the 60s TV show (except at least Adam West and the boys knew they were bein campy. I think Burton actually thought he was making a dark film)."Batman" and "Batman Returns" = classics. get over it.