Bishop Lamont freestyles for 10 mins and talks Detox subject matter

[PLANT]

Detox WILL eventualy come out and be a classic, no doubt

BUT

that freestyle was fuckin insane

[Lindon]

bishop lamont ain't really like 50 cent at all perhaps you have a misconception of his music?

sorry my post didn't really express what i was trying to say. using the example you used of 50 Cent - i am guessing he can be a compelling character to some because all he is is a cartoon character if that makes sense. the person he presents on the mic is part- (or total) fiction, a series of film like stories which are entertainment in which he always plays the bad a*s superhero. 50 cent is not trying to (or can't) deliver a 360 degree version of who curtis jackson is.
 
bishop presents himself on the mic as a "real" person (whatever the f*ck that means). he attempts to deliver a message whether that be as the saviour of hip-hop, a preacher of sorts etc. but for me it is very difficult to listen to someone who is not that interesting musically where lyrically he preaches without any real sense of a personal struggle. he is just not a compelling artist for me. to me there is no soul in his music and while he is a brilliant talker i can't find him a very convincing preacher because there just seems like there sounds to me a lack of honesty somewhere in what he spits about and not enough mic skills to make up for that or carry it off (like a dude like ice cube). sorry if that sounds like hate. i am still anticipating an album if it comes but other than a couple of tracks like Translator i just haven't heard him get the balance right.

That's what worries me too. So I see your point  I mean I was a HUGE BDP/KRS fan,but he kinda lost me around his
Sex and Violence album. 
He went on his anti gangster crusade and with all his preaching he lost me,
the music came secondary and the message in focus.
I appreciate Bishop's effort though.
Anyway there's a thread about;
content VS flow here 

chad, to be totally honest with you and i know the dude is a legend but i could never listen to KRS1!!!!
 

[Dre-Day]

bishop lamont ain't really like 50 cent at all perhaps you have a misconception of his music?

sorry my post didn't really express what i was trying to say. using the example you used of 50 Cent - i am guessing he can be a compelling character to some because all he is is a cartoon character if that makes sense. the person he presents on the mic is part- (or total) fiction, a series of film like stories which are entertainment in which he always plays the bad a*s superhero. 50 cent is not trying to (or can't) deliver a 360 degree version of who curtis jackson is.
 
bishop presents himself on the mic as a "real" person (whatever the f*ck that means). he attempts to deliver a message whether that be as the saviour of hip-hop, a preacher of sorts etc. but for me it is very difficult to listen to someone who is not that interesting musically where lyrically he preaches without any real sense of a personal struggle. he is just not a compelling artist for me. to me there is no soul in his music and while he is a brilliant talker i can't find him a very convincing preacher because there just seems like there sounds to me a lack of honesty somewhere in what he spits about and not enough mic skills to make up for that or carry it off (like a dude like ice cube). sorry if that sounds like hate. i am still anticipating an album if it comes but other than a couple of tracks like Translator i just haven't heard him get the balance right.

no problem 

nah your post doesn't sound like hate at all; you're being honest 
i see what you're saying 

[Chad Vader]

bishop Lamont ain't really like 50 cent at all perhaps you have a misconception of his music?

sorry my post didn't really express what i was trying to say. using the example you used of 50 Cent - i am guessing he can be a compelling character to some because all he is is a cartoon character if that makes sense. the person he presents on the Mic is part- (or total) fiction, a series of film like stories which are entertainment in which he always plays the bad a*s superhero. 50 cent is not trying to (or can't) deliver a 360 degree version of who Curtis jackson is.
 
bishop presents himself on the Mic as a "real" person (whatever the f*ck that means).
he attempts to deliver a message whether that be as the saviour of hip-hop, a preacher of sorts etc.
but for me it is very difficult to listen to someone who is not that interesting musically where lyrically
he preaches without any real sense of a personal struggle. he is just not a compelling artist for me.
to me there is no soul in his music and while he is a brilliant talker i can't find him a very convincing
preacher because there just seems like there sounds to me a lack of honesty somewhere in what he
spits about and not enough Mic skills to make up for that or carry it off (like a dude like ice cube).
sorry if that sounds like hate. i am still anticipating an album if it comes but other than a couple of
tracks like Translator i just haven't heard him get the balance right.

yep,I sorta agree with. Maybe a better way to describe it is lack off passion in his delivery to be convincing?

That's what worries me too. So I see your point  I mean I was a HUGE BDP/KRS fan,but he kinda lost me around his
Sex and Violence album. 
He went on his anti gangster crusade and with all his preaching he lost me,
the music came secondary and the message in focus.
I appreciate Bishop's effort though.
Anyway there's a thread about;
content VS flow here 

chad, to be totally honest with you and i know the dude is a legend but i could never listen to KRS1!!!!

Not sure when you came around...
but if I assume you came around in the 90´s,you might have got presented with KRS as this stuck up preaching hypocrite. Which is true  .
But if you was around in the mid to late 80´s,how could you miss out on and not feel?;
BDP; Criminal Minded and BDP; By All Means Necessary?

[Cheese]

lol, like Dre's even writing his own rhymes.

[Lindon]

yep,I sorta agree with. Maybe a better way to describe it is lack off passion in his delivery to be convincing?

exactly lacking the passion and hunger of an Ice Cube.

Not sure when you came around...
but if I assume you came around in the 90´s,you might have got presented with KRS as this stuck up preaching hypocrite. Which is true  .
But if you was around in the mid to late 80´s,how could you miss out on and not feel?;
BDP; Criminal Minded and BDP; By All Means Necessary?

i came around in the late 80s and all i listened to then to be honest was west coast gangster sh*t...

[Black Gloves]

Bishop doesnt really have that sex appeal that niggas like Snoop for example has.

Bishop is just a regular nigga. Dont nobody wanna hear that shit. At least get a bigger ass or something.

[Chad Vader]

Not sure when you came around...
but if I assume you came around in the 90´s,you might have got presented with KRS as this stuck up preaching hypocrite. Which is true  .
But if you was around in the mid to late 80´s,how could you miss out on and not feel?;
BDP; Criminal Minded and BDP; By All Means Necessary?

i came around in the late 80s and all i listened to then to be honest was west coast gangster sh*t...

I see 
At least I hope you have given them a chance 

[LyRiCaL_G]

Word up to Lindon, props on your shit on bishop, i usually dig it. Musically the shit gotta sound good whatever sector/area of hiphop u place yourself in. Bishop is placing himself in a group where he is supposed to be 'mature' and real and saving hiphop etc but then he is putting himself in a group with the likes of legends like Nas and even Jigga (not a fan but i appreciate dude got mad skills) and past legends like Cube and lets be real...homie aint even released one album...okay the mixtapes he dropping for joke, but a cats career is defined through albums imo and in terms of skills, he really aint close to any of the others I mentioned in this thread. Ofcourse thats just my opinion but i dont really see it changing right now. Grow Up aint really doing nothing for me and I have heard some songs where bishop flows like a beast (Donkey Kong) but not enough for me.

I too look forward to the album and see what dre can cook up with this nigga but i see what lindon saying about whatever message you tryna put across, the music and flow and how you present it has to be right to because first n foremost, this is music.

Pz