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LOL @ Sarah Palin clowning the f*** out of Barack Obama
King Tech Quadafi:
--- Quote from: Low Key on September 08, 2008, 04:10:17 PM ---If any of you guys think Obama will lead this country in to prosperity, you all have another thing coming. Who do you vote for when both candidates are not the best their party has to offer? And don't say Ron Paul because they guy is damn near a socialist.
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do u know what socialist means?
Low Key:
--- Quote from: Mr. Dubz on September 08, 2008, 04:15:54 PM ---^Actually, I am just hoping that Obama steers this country away from its current path. McCain is a carbon copy of Bush. I see you're upset with every possible candidate in each thread that you post in. So, in your opinion, who would best suit the nation and why?
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I don't know who would be the best for this country. There are certain attributes in both Obama and McCain which could serve America well, but neither of their policies offer good exit strategies for most of the trouble we are in. If Obama supported off shore and ANWR drilling, he will win the election, and I wouldn't mind him so much. A tax heavy plan with no relief from high food and gas prices is worthless, even when Obama pulls the troops out of Iraq.
--- Quote from: King Tech Quadafi on September 08, 2008, 04:41:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: Low Key on September 08, 2008, 04:10:17 PM ---If any of you guys think Obama will lead this country in to prosperity, you all have another thing coming. Who do you vote for when both candidates are not the best their party has to offer? And don't say Ron Paul because they guy is damn near a socialist.
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do u know what socialist means?
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Yes. Thanks for asking.
jeromechickenbone:
--- Quote from: King Tech Quadafi on September 08, 2008, 04:41:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: Low Key on September 08, 2008, 04:10:17 PM ---If any of you guys think Obama will lead this country in to prosperity, you all have another thing coming. Who do you vote for when both candidates are not the best their party has to offer? And don't say Ron Paul because they guy is damn near a socialist.
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do u know what socialist means?
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He has no fucking clue apparently.
The King:
--- Quote ---If Obama supported off shore and ANWR drilling, he will win the election, and I wouldn't mind him so much. A tax heavy plan with no relief from high food and gas prices is worthless, even when Obama pulls the troops out of Iraq.
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Americans (mostly Republicans) are complainers. Food prices, taxes, and gas are all twice as high in Canada, and you don't see them complaining as much. Such selfishness, you guys have a 10 trillion dollar deficit, and you expect lower and lower taxes? Apparently Obama's plan won't even increase taxes for the vast majority of Americans. Americans (mostly Republicans) are like little kids. If they don't get what they want, they complain, even if they don't need it. Your country can't afford the War, it can't afford more tax cuts, and it can't afford all the oil it consumes and wastes. So you simply vote for the candidate who promises those things. Not smart.
Drilling won't lower the price of oil. First of all, theirs not much oil left to be found (maybe a few years supply) off shore, second thing is, it'll take 5 years to even drill it, put up the rig, and get it into the supply. The US wastes so much oil, consumes so much per day, no source will ever meet the demand. It's not a short term solution, or a long term solution. It's a talking point McCain uses to fool stupid voters. You've seen those T-Boone Picken's ads/interviews, even the richest of the oil men agree drilling won't solve anything. Wind, solar, geothermal isn't that expensive. Europe uses it, Canada uses it, and it works just fine. The initial investment will be huge, but Americans have such a short memory. "As long as gas is cheap TODAY, i'll vote for whoever promises it." McCain doesn't even have wind/solar in his energy plan. Obama on the other hand, along with Gore, and people who actually work in the oil/energy business know that renewable is the only way to go. People who doubt it are just fucking morons. Obama does need to lighten up on nuclear power though, it's not dangerous, and he should promote it.
Socialized medicine will never happen, the system is too fucked up to change. But really, Iraq is an insane waste of money, and Obama is the guy who'll get the troops out. McCain sounds like such a fool when he says if they withdraw it's a defeat. It's like a fucking game. America against the world, and it must win. America can't lose. McCain appeals to the brainless, all his speechs are filled with propaganda, and lies. Every second sentence is America is Great, God bless America. Not to mention the immense exaggerations in the ads, saying Obama wants to teach sex ed in kindergarten, when really he wants to inform the kids about what molestation is.
Ron Paul is the least socialist man in politics. He represents real physical conservative values. His whole foriegn policy about non-interventionism is what conservatives are supposed to believe. Who gives a fuck about abortion anyways? If America actually elects McCain and that dumb bitch Palin, the world will laugh. Two pro-life candidates? One who believes in Creationism? It's 2008, not the 1800's. Imagine Palin going to Russia to meet Putin. What a joke that would be. Why do you think she hasn't done any interviews? Because under that sexy exterior, she's a fundamentalist christian, a person who doesn't believe in science, and doesn't know anything about national issues. Not to mention McCain is so old, he looks like he could die any day.
Low Key:
Canada isn't a good example of high prices. Their imports far exceed their exports, and their taxes are astronomically high because of universal health care. Besides, I'm not sitting over here saying taxes in America are high. Of course, I'm not a big fan of taxes, but who is? I was simply making a statement saying that if Obama wants to tax, which liberals are known to do, then he should at least look at off shore and ANWR drilling. The more energy prices skyrocket, the more the American dollar drops in value. We may have a 10 trillion dollar deficit now, but if the government starts getting into the business of bailing people out, which they are starting to do with the housing and lending markets, we can only expect the deficit to grow. Why not throw some possibility of relief in there? Even if it does take 5 years to develop, it will directly affect the free trade market and the stock exchange.
Will drilling solve all of our problems? Of course not. But one thing it will do is give the world another source of energy than what we have right now until an alternative energy source can be created. I'm not sure where you are hearing there is only a couple years of oil in America. From what I understand from the estimates I have seen published by several news organizations, we have up to 50 years of oil in this country, which is probably slightly exaggerated to generate interest. Worst case scenario, we only have a decade or two of oil, what's the point of keeping it in the ground? The entire world infrastructure would crumble to the ground without proper energy resources. We would basically be back in the 1800s, so essentially, we're damned if we do and damned if we don't until some other energy source (wind, solar, nuclear or whatever) can be utilized.
My classes just started, so I'll finished replying when I get home.
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