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Why do so many Iranians identify themselves as "Persian"?
Prof@ssor:
--- Quote from: King Tech Quadafi on September 13, 2008, 11:59:37 PM ---Not to mention that the term "Persian" is non existent in Farsi.
The language is Farsi, the land Pars, the people Aryan.
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The term IS existant: It's Parsi, with a P. But because of the fucking Arabic influence the P changed in an F.
Ali Tha Great:
--- Quote from: Prof@ssor on September 14, 2008, 10:10:37 AM ---
--- Quote from: King Tech Quadafi on September 13, 2008, 11:59:37 PM ---Not to mention that the term "Persian" is non existent in Farsi.
The language is Farsi, the land Pars, the people Aryan.
--- End quote ---
The term IS existant: It's Parsi, with a P. But because of the fucking Arabic influence the P changed in an F.
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already taken care of son...
--- Quote from: Ali Tha Great on September 14, 2008, 12:07:33 AM ---
--- Quote from: Ali Tha Great on September 14, 2008, 12:03:35 AM ---
--- Quote from: King Tech Quadafi on September 13, 2008, 11:59:37 PM ---Not to mention that the term "Persian" is non existent in Farsi.
The language is Farsi, the land Pars, the people Aryan.
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word son...
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well its actually parsi...with a p...not farsi...
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Prof@ssor:
--- Quote from: King Tech Quadafi on September 13, 2008, 11:58:21 PM ---This is a very tricky situation
Iran refers to a country, and every citizen of Iran is called an Iranian
Iranians however refer to themselves as Persian which is the name of the ancient empire. But its actually a mistake, an attempt to monopolize the use of that term
not true, it is absolutely NOT a mistake: In the outside world, the official name of Iran from the 6th century BC until 1935 was Persia or similar foreign language translations (La Perse, Das Persien, Perzie, etc.). In that year, Reza Shah asked the international community to call the country by the name "Iran". A few years later, some Persian scholars protested to the government that changing the name had separated the country from its past, so in 1959 Mohammad Reza Shah announced that both terms could officially be used interchangeably.
If we use the Persian empire as a barometer of what is considered a Persian, then Azeris, Armenians (who actually speak an ancient Persian language), Kurds, Iranians, Tajiks and Pashtuns are considered Persians because these peoples lands made up the Persian empire. Plus the intermingling of Parthian, Scythian and Medes genes plus to some extent semetic on the western part and dravidian on the eastern part.
Well, then you should NOT use it as a barometer, otherwise, even Egyptians and Ethiopians would be considered Persians.
If we use the Indo Iranian linguistic group as the barometer for Persians, then we include Pakistanis and Balotch
Technically the most correct interpretation would be that all Persian speakers can be considered Persian. But Farsi is the official language in Afghanistan and Tajikistan. Tajiks infact means eastern Iranians, usually Sunni Muslim.
But when an Afghan Farsi speaker (not Pashtun cuz we would never claim persian) claims to be Persian, he is made fun of for being a wannabe. But then an Azeri or Turkic descended Iranian can claim Persian? Makes no sense.
They are not made fun of as much as you might think
Many of the Persian empires notables, warriors and poets came from modern day Afghanistan like Balkhi, Rumi and Jalaludin Afghani.
What is this supposed to mean? When they want independence then they're like "Ow were not Iranian, were Afghans!!" but when we talk about these great men, then they're suddenly all Persians? Fuck that
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Ali Tha Great:
--- Quote from: little girl on September 14, 2008, 11:02:35 AM ---King Tech suck a cock.
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