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Is it possible to be moral without any religious influence?

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TraceOneInfinite:

--- Quote from: 7even on October 02, 2008, 07:03:20 AM ---

See, that's what people like you do, you rationalize it down to the point that those people are completely irrational and unhappy, when in reality, there simply are  bad people who are successfully having reckless fun out there with no God to ever punish them (from an atheist point of view). Of course this may sound over-simplyfied to you; and you would never accept it cause that whole strive-for-oneself-concept gets a snag.


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7even is right. 

We can not say that the thief is any less happy.  Happiness is subjective, we can not determine for someone else what will make them happy.   It could be totally possible that a thief could find a happiness that is not only temporary but durable.  So we can only say that we have chosen for ourselves, after viewing the consequences to ONE'S OWN life, that we may achieve greater happiness by NOT stealing... but we can't claim absolutely that the thief is always less happy.

Our only concern with the thief now becomes... not whether or not he is happy, but how can we guard our property against the thief.  And by the way, government is not needed for this purpose, as many believe.  One can merely take measures to avoid the thief, use locks, alarms, their are also many private security agencies available to them, bodyguards, etc... depending on the amount of wealth you must secure, and how much you are willing to expend for that purpose. 

big mat:

--- Quote from: Rugged Monk on October 01, 2008, 02:24:13 AM ---yeah but specifically how you explain it, (know any philosophers whose bout it bout it?) how...

how can you be moral without religious influence...where did you get your morales from then?

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my philosophia teacher use to tell us that god was not moral because he's describe in the bible as a love being and is only able to do the right thing. You can't be moral if you're not able to chose between the bad and evil. Like there's no right without wrong. In the ancient testament, god is moral, for exemple when the devil ask him to prove job faith and put him to test he's doing wrong, he has the capacity to chose. It's a none sense most christian religion ask people to be amoral not moral or unmoral

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