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Saw Obama at the rally in Kansas City tonight
Turf Hitta:
--- Quote from: pc8381 on October 18, 2008, 11:55:24 PM ---I realized both candidates is gonna take us to socialist.
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I dont know how many of you guys have been to college, but its a known fact that capitalism doesn't work without a healthy dose of socialism.
Sikotic™:
Exactly, socialism is a just dirty word due to the Cold War, but it doesn't make it a bad thing.
Capitalism and Socialism both balance each other out. Too much of each can lead to disaster.
Real American:
--- Quote from: The King on October 19, 2008, 01:10:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: pc8381 on October 18, 2008, 11:55:24 PM ---I realized both candidates is gonna take us to socialist.
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What exactly is wrong with a little socialism? Taxing the rich more? That's socialist, do you have a problem with that? Universal health care, something every other modern nation has, except the US? That's socialism, do you have a problem with that? What exactly is wrong with socialism. You people say it like it's cancer. Capitalism is cancer, the free market is cancer. It's evil, all about greed, and keeping the poor poorer and the rich richer. Tax those millionaires, they don't need the money. The current crisis proves capitalism is flawed. And the only thing socialist about Obama's plan is tax policy and health care. Doesn't sound that bad.
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Socialism is actually very bad. There is a reason the United States has the greatest economy the world has ever seen. That is because we are the most capitalist and have the most free markets.
You like socialism? Do you also like the low economic growth and double digit unemployment that comes along with socialism? The reason the stock market failed and cause this economic crisis is partially because of government involvement in the economy. America's two biggest mortgage companies, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, were created by the government and were guaranteed by charter to be backed by the government for any losses they faced. As a result, they ended up giving tons of risky loans out to poor people without any concern of the risk because they knew they were backed by the government. Well guess what? Those people defaulted on their mortgages and now taxpayers are left to bail them out.
And you say socialism is a good thing? Personally, I say the less government the better. There is a reason countries like China and India are rapidly embracing capitalism and seeing their economies grow. The more free and capitalist, the better off an economy is. PERIOD.
Real American:
Why do you guys bash the rich people? Liberals mindlessly bash rich people but fail to understand that the rich are the engine of the economy. I don't know about you people, but I never got a job from a poor person. Every job I ever had was given to me by a rich individual or by a corporation. Raising taxes does nothing but take away the incentives for people to take risk and start a business, and it also makes it harder for business to go out and invest in new technologies and new workers.
Anyone who supports tax increases in an idiot. Obama is therefore an idiot.
Turf Hitta:
--- Quote from: Real American on October 20, 2008, 05:35:38 PM ---Why do you guys bash the rich people? Liberals mindlessly bash rich people but fail to understand that the rich are the engine of the economy. I don't know about you people, but I never got a job from a poor person. Every job I ever had was given to me by a rich individual or by a corporation. Raising taxes does nothing but take away the incentives for people to take risk and start a business, and it also makes it harder for business to go out and invest in new technologies and new workers.
Anyone who supports tax increases in an idiot. Obama is therefore an idiot.
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Seriously. Everybody knows the Wall Street bailout, Iraq War and the unprecedented national debt are all paying for themselves.
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