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Crash (Season 2)
Shallow:
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--- Quote from: white Boy on March 24, 2009, 02:01:02 PM ---i loved no country the 1st time, the 2nd time it blew my mind, im in a modern american lit class, and the movie was drenching with all the themes we have been talking about all semester, plus its so nicely directed and badass, i even like the ending now cuase its puzzled me to this point, i might even end up using the movie for my final paper
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What themes exactly? I'm still not that huge on the film. The Tommy Lee scenes make it brilliant for me.
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not having to think to hard, the one obvious huge one is the whole old/ young thing, how the old generation is basically being wiped clean by the new, but it is a 'creative destruction' or emerson's idea of circles, but ultimately the old has to go when the new comes, and the new has to come, i think the movie even complicates this becasue the specific thing of the 'new' they are exploring is crime, which is destructive to begin, but you dont exactly think about how crime evolves. something like that. that opening speech has a lot in it, but it comes back all the time. another apparent one is chance determinism, i mean hes flippin coins and people's lives are dependend on that
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The one that really stuck out in my head was that the world stays the same but you change with age and think it isn't you but the world that is doing the changing. The Tommy Lee Jones scenes really stress that. The one scene in particular I remember is Jones and the other town sheriff complaining about "the kids today" and how all the respect is gone, etc etc etc, an that's why things like what happened can happen, but Jones later scene with his uncle clarifies everything when they talk about the crazy native that killed some member of their family decades before. The idea is that this isn't a country for old men because as they age and become wise they realize how bad some things are that they didn't see when they were young.
Think of it like this; you're in grade 8 and you hear some 7th grade slut is blowing guys in the boys washroom. You may or may not partake in it for whatever reasons but more often than not you think it's cool and the main reason any 8th grade boy wouldn't go in would be because they are nervous. We're in our 20s now. How cool is the idea of a 13 year old girl blowing multiple guys in a washroom? What would you think of the fact that your young cousin or niece may be doing that? Fast forward 20 years and it's your daughter, 30 more years and it's your grand daughter. The simple facts of life get more and more disgusting as we age. We change. The "country" stays the same.
That's the theme I saw that made me love the film. I'll watch it again with your themes in mind.
white Boy:
--- Quote from: Shallow on March 30, 2009, 03:35:40 PM ---I'll watch it again with your themes in mind.
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likewise, im still thinking about it, i know what you mean but relative to the movie, did you read the book, i heard that is very good as well
Shallow:
--- Quote from: white Boy on March 30, 2009, 07:06:41 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on March 30, 2009, 03:35:40 PM ---I'll watch it again with your themes in mind.
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likewise, im still thinking about it, i know what you mean but relative to the movie, did you read the book, i heard that is very good as well
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Never read the book. I might some day.
Still thinking about what? All the themes of the film? Or about 13 year old dick sucking whores?
white Boy:
--- Quote from: Shallow on March 30, 2009, 07:18:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: white Boy on March 30, 2009, 07:06:41 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on March 30, 2009, 03:35:40 PM ---I'll watch it again with your themes in mind.
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likewise, im still thinking about it, i know what you mean but relative to the movie, did you read the book, i heard that is very good as well
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Never read the book. I might some day.
Still thinking about what? All the themes of the film? Or about 13 year old dick sucking whores?
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all of the above
Elano:
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