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The DubCC documentaries thread (911,Roswell,2Pac + more to come)
Laconic:
--- Quote from: Chad Vader on December 01, 2008, 02:47:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: Laconic on December 01, 2008, 01:57:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chad Vader on December 01, 2008, 10:42:50 AM ---
--- Quote from: Laconic on December 01, 2008, 09:35:23 AM ---
--- Quote from: Chad Vader on November 29, 2008, 06:10:42 AM ---
--- Quote from: Laconic on November 28, 2008, 08:11:05 PM ---This is a great film...one of the best from the "truth movement."
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I filter these propaganda documentaries.... it's funny how both sides tell the "truth" (right and left wing).
So I balance shit out,the truth is somewhere in the middle. I don't take all their "facts" for fact :P... most of this is some conspiracy shit. :laugh:
Think it illegal yet ;)
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Actually, defenders of the official conspiracy theory have been extremely reticent to say anything honest or accurate.
And you're right-it is all conspiracy shit-but which conspiracy is really more plausible after investigation? The answer is palpably rhetorical?
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I'm a sucker for documentaries,and believe me I've seen my fair share of documentaries from both sides :P :laugh:
And what investigation? If you look at that shit with some scepticism.... When did Italian actors become credible sources?
They're not more credible than you and me.... I mean,I can also speak on this... :laugh:
--- Quote from: Laconic on December 01, 2008, 09:35:23 AM ---"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance."-Einstein
^Most people fall into this category unfortunately because they've been indoctrinated so much into thinking America can do wrong.
In fact, it is hard to find a time when America has done right without expecting something in return. Damn shame.
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It's all about who you talk to... ;)
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The bottom line is that if one understands who the executive director of the 9/11 Commission (Philip Zelikow) was and how he got the job then it's rather easy for people to see that the whole official investigation was all manipulated lies, omissions, distortions, half-truths and so on.
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I don't question that fact ;)
--- Quote from: Laconic on December 01, 2008, 01:57:53 PM ---I'm very familiar with 9/11 as I've studied it independently under a prof at college and also have been doing my own research for around 4-5 years.
All the subsequent questions could be answered with a real investigation.
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We can investigate and investigate.... but I don't think we will ever get to the bottom of this.
This shit is just like JFK or Roswell UFO incident. :P :-\ :laugh:
So like I said before,the "truth" is somewhere in the middle. (at least that's how I see it) ;)
--- Quote from: Laconic on December 01, 2008, 01:57:53 PM ---As far as the Italian actor I see your point but he is merely repeating facts that have been uncovered
by actual journalists, professors, scientists, engineers, and so forth.
That's like using Charlie Sheen for 9/11 truth-people adore and worship celebrities, therefore, more exposure is given.
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Charlie Sheen is a celeb....
Non those Italian cats actors ain't,there's not a single credible person appearing actually.
It could might as well be you and me ;) :laugh:
--- Quote from: Laconic on December 01, 2008, 01:57:53 PM ---Anyway, I think anyone with a somewhat open mind on 9/11 can see that the twin towers
and WTC 7 were brought down with some type of device, i.e. thermate. All 3 "collapses" violate basic Newtonian laws of physics. ;)
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Well,I don't know much about it... other than what's presented there.
So I believe I'm better off not speaking on it. ;)
But if there's something to it,how come "no one" have spoken off any irregular activity in the days/weeks/months before 9-11.
It's not a easy task to place bombs in every floor in two buildings unnoticed. ;)
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There's not a credible person in the film? How about Dario Fo, Steven Jones, David Ray Griffin, Lou Cacchiole, Nafeez Ahmed, etc?
And people have come out and talked about the days/weeks leading up to the attacks. For one, bomb-sniffing dogs were removed from the WTC prior to the attacks. Moreover, there were "power downs" (entire floors and security cameras were disabled while mysterious workers were in and out) before 9/11. Not to mention a company called Ace Elevators were doing elevator modifications which were located right next to the crucial core columns needed to bring those buildings down. Most people think those towers were tube structures but they actually had 47 massive core columns and 240 perimeter columns. Furthermore, GW Bush's brother Marvin was a principal in the security company, Securacom, for the entire complex. Also, his 1st cousin Wirt Walker III was the CEO of this company. But of course these issues weren't raised by the 9/11 Commission because like the Chairmen(Kean & Hamilton) said in their book Without Precedent, "They were set up to fail."
OchoCinco:
here is a good documentary type investigation
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=in+plane+site&emb=0&aq=f#
Chad Vader:
--- Quote from: Laconic on December 02, 2008, 09:58:07 AM ---
--- Quote from: Chad Vader on December 01, 2008, 02:47:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: Laconic on December 01, 2008, 01:57:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chad Vader on December 01, 2008, 10:42:50 AM ---
--- Quote from: Laconic on December 01, 2008, 09:35:23 AM ---
--- Quote from: Chad Vader on November 29, 2008, 06:10:42 AM ---
--- Quote from: Laconic on November 28, 2008, 08:11:05 PM ---This is a great film...one of the best from the "truth movement."
--- End quote ---
I filter these propaganda documentaries.... it's funny how both sides tell the "truth" (right and left wing).
So I balance shit out,the truth is somewhere in the middle. I don't take all their "facts" for fact :P... most of this is some conspiracy shit. :laugh:
Think it illegal yet ;)
--- End quote ---
Actually, defenders of the official conspiracy theory have been extremely reticent to say anything honest or accurate.
And you're right-it is all conspiracy shit-but which conspiracy is really more plausible after investigation? The answer is palpably rhetorical?
--- End quote ---
I'm a sucker for documentaries,and believe me I've seen my fair share of documentaries from both sides :P :laugh:
And what investigation? If you look at that shit with some scepticism.... When did Italian actors become credible sources?
They're not more credible than you and me.... I mean,I can also speak on this... :laugh:
--- Quote from: Laconic on December 01, 2008, 09:35:23 AM ---"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance."-Einstein
^Most people fall into this category unfortunately because they've been indoctrinated so much into thinking America can do wrong.
In fact, it is hard to find a time when America has done right without expecting something in return. Damn shame.
--- End quote ---
It's all about who you talk to... ;)
--- End quote ---
The bottom line is that if one understands who the executive director of the 9/11 Commission (Philip Zelikow) was and how he got the job then it's rather easy for people to see that the whole official investigation was all manipulated lies, omissions, distortions, half-truths and so on.
--- End quote ---
I don't question that fact ;)
--- Quote from: Laconic on December 01, 2008, 01:57:53 PM ---I'm very familiar with 9/11 as I've studied it independently under a prof at college and also have been doing my own research for around 4-5 years.
All the subsequent questions could be answered with a real investigation.
--- End quote ---
We can investigate and investigate.... but I don't think we will ever get to the bottom of this.
This shit is just like JFK or Roswell UFO incident. :P :-\ :laugh:
So like I said before,the "truth" is somewhere in the middle. (at least that's how I see it) ;)
--- Quote from: Laconic on December 01, 2008, 01:57:53 PM ---As far as the Italian actor I see your point but he is merely repeating facts that have been uncovered
by actual journalists, professors, scientists, engineers, and so forth.
That's like using Charlie Sheen for 9/11 truth-people adore and worship celebrities, therefore, more exposure is given.
--- End quote ---
Charlie Sheen is a celeb....
Non those Italian cats actors ain't,there's not a single credible person appearing actually.
It could might as well be you and me ;) :laugh:
--- Quote from: Laconic on December 01, 2008, 01:57:53 PM ---Anyway, I think anyone with a somewhat open mind on 9/11 can see that the twin towers
and WTC 7 were brought down with some type of device, i.e. thermate. All 3 "collapses" violate basic Newtonian laws of physics. ;)
--- End quote ---
Well,I don't know much about it... other than what's presented there.
So I believe I'm better off not speaking on it. ;)
But if there's something to it,how come "no one" have spoken off any irregular activity in the days/weeks/months before 9-11.
It's not a easy task to place bombs in every floor in two buildings unnoticed. ;)
--- End quote ---
There's not a credible person in the film? How about Dario Fo, Steven Jones, David Ray Griffin, Lou Cacchiole, Nafeez Ahmed, etc?
And people have come out and talked about the days/weeks leading up to the attacks. For one, bomb-sniffing dogs were removed from the WTC prior to the attacks. Moreover, there were "power downs" (entire floors and security cameras were disabled while mysterious workers were in and out) before 9/11. Not to mention a company called Ace Elevators were doing elevator modifications which were located right next to the crucial core columns needed to bring those buildings down. Most people think those towers were tube structures but they actually had 47 massive core columns and 240 perimeter columns. Furthermore, GW Bush's brother Marvin was a principal in the security company, Securacom, for the entire complex. Also, his 1st cousin Wirt Walker III was the CEO of this company. But of course these issues weren't raised by the 9/11 Commission because like the Chairmen(Kean & Hamilton) said in their book Without Precedent, "They were set up to fail."
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I somehow missed your reply... :P :-\ :-[
will get back to it... will take a minute to reply to all that ;)
some of the info is very interesting,will do some research on it ;) (for what it´s worth.. ;) you never know what is true anymore :P :laugh: :-[ :-[)
Chad Vader:
--- Quote ---UFO Hunters S02E05 The Real Roswell
http://www.rlslog.net/ufo-hunters-s02e05-the-real-roswell-hdtv-xvid-fqm/
This History Channel show kinda caught my eye at the beginning of the first season, but I never got around to watching any of the episodes. Season 2 started a few weeks ago and I decided to keep getting it in hope of some day having the time to watch…maybe when I retire…anyway, Roswell has been covered countless number of times by documentary makers so let’s see what new this one has to offer…
On July 8, 1947 at 5:26 EDT, an Associated Press news wire announced that soldiers from Roswell Army Air Field in New Mexico recovered a “flying disk” from a nearby rancher’s property. The tiny town of Roswell has never been the same. Now, 61 years later, new theories, new witnesses, and new evidence have emerged. The most shocking lead is that there may have been a second crash, and if it can be found, it may finally reveal what really happened at Roswell.
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UFO Hunters S02E05 The Real Roswell
Roccy:
www.zeitgeistmovie.com
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