the Black Bruce Willis discussion thread

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originally, this was supposed to be a hardcore album (according to Erotic).
then Erotic decided to take a different direction.
a couple of months ago i already had the opportunity to preview a few tracks:

Checked them quick;
Play with them;
Whatīs up with this track 
His flow on this is ehhhhh 
The beat is also a little corny 
Iīm sure Luna will love this one though 
1/5

a little corny?   

Mr.Murderer;
Heavy guitars,some gangster shit.
The beat us tight too,a mix between "Natural Born Killaz" and "Ski & Dre"..... but not as good. 
3/5

do you think it's a bit repititive too?

Wait a minute;
Dope beat,love the synth.... the hook is eehhhh 
So a new hook,get some other rappers featured... this one might work 
But right now itīs just a dope beat and synth with subpar vocals and a wak hook. 
2.5/5

you're being way too kind 

My girl;
Dope beat,the hook works.... the lyrics fit the track,but again as a rapper Erotic comes short.
So he might as get another rapper to perform his lyrics. 
Another one Iīm sure Luna will like 
3/5

i see your point.

by the way, when i look at the info of each track on E's myspace i think that all 6 tracks are leftovers 

ok,thanx for the info 
...and hopefully the tracks on his albums is a little better because honestly the tracks was average (pluss - minus  )

yeah; the fact that those tracks were all once considered to be on the album leads me to the conclusion that E has no proper direction for the album 

when looking back now,after having listened to the album a couple of times, it's safe to say that the final result is not even nearly as bad as i first predicted.
we still got our fair share of hardcore stuff: Anatomyovamurder, Mr. Murderer, b4 i'm out, Serial Killer, Mindovalunatic, G-None Rilla, Live By The Gun, U Need Dat, Payback.
and even some of the "lighter" songs are on point: Black With No Money, Lesbian Luv Affair(cool drum sounds by the way!), My Girl.
Play wit' it and Wait a minute don't belong on the album though, imo. i'm sure Erotic had his reasons for putting those songs on there, but i think he shouldn't be doing this stuff.

anyway, Erotic proved himself as a performer and a writer on the album.
sure, he may not a top 10 list, but i didn't get the "hey, that's a producer trying to rap" impression either.
ok, he ain't new to this, but this is the first time he carried pretty much the whole album.
i really hope Erotic goes 100% hardcore next time though; he has the perfect vocals for it 

album rating: 7/10

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Chad Vaderīs Black Bruce Willis review

-1 Anatomy Of A Murder
Pretty dope intro that sets the tone of the album.
4 out of 5
-2 Mr. Murderer
A hardcore track,with some heavy guitars.
4 out 5
-3 Before I'm Out
Another hard hitting beat....
4 out 5
-4 Mind Of A Lunatic
Tight,LOVE the pan flute.....
4.5 out of 5
-5 Play With It
ehhhhhhh  no rating
-6 Interlube
Some fun shit,if it's real... it's a memory. If not it's a little corny.  no rating
-7 Black With No Money (feat. Christi B.)
Tight,dope beat and lyrics.
4.2 out of 5
-8 G-None Reala (feat. Six2, El Dog, & Nina Ross)
Can't go wrong with 6-2,El-Dog and Erotic on the beat. Shit is tight
4.5 out of 5
-9 Music And Me
Tight beat and storytelling rap,but the hook is ehhhh 
3 out of 5
-10 Lesbian Love Affair
Tight beat (love the parts on the 2nd verse),the hook is ehhhh and fucks up the track
2.5 out of 5
-11 Serial Killer
And yes,we're back to some hardcore. Piano,synth and 808 in other words gangster shit. This is how it should sound.
4.5 out of 5
-12 Live By The Gun
Tight....
4 out of 5
-13 Wait A Minute
ehhhh tight beat,but ehhhh no comment or rating 
-14 Daddy Don't Leave Me (feat Alize Ali)
straight...
3 out of 5
-15 U Need That (feat. El Dog)
Tight beat and raps,but nothing over the top though
3.5 out 5
-16 No Place (feat. Money Waters)
some laid back shit,nice..
3.5 out of 5
-17 My Girl
The beat,guitar,synth and the hook is nice,don't fit "lunatic murder concept",but by itself it works
3.5 out 5
-18 Payback (feat El Dog)
Ohhh well,I guess DOC will hear this now  .
It's a tight track (love the retro synth),but some of the words is a little harsh (go back to to smoking crack...... .....a handicapped rapper can't say shit  )
4 out of 5
-19 Don't Go Away (feat Verse)
ehhh no comment or rating 
-20 Porno Star
Nice beat and guitar... a fun track,but again it don't fit. Nice instrumental outro 
3 out of 5


Overall conclusion;
In my opinion he should have been a little stricter with the concept and selection of tracks,I'm sure there's a lot of cats that like those club and "porno" tracks...
He could have spread those tracks out on three albums,a club album,a "porno" album and a "lunatic murderer concept" album... but it is what is.

Overall rating;
3.7 out of 5

the conclusion is still up to date, but some tracks could have grown for Chad Vader so let's see 

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and even some of the "lighter" songs are on point:
Black With No Money

^^^that's a tight track....^^^
and no my overall rating ain't changed 

i see 
have you listened to the album recently?
anyway, i was looking at your ratings and i'm a bit surprised that you gave Daddy don't leave me a 6/10 rating 
was the hook acceptable for you? 

[Mackin]

The album is Really Nice!!

I was not expecting anything but good music, and he delivered!

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and even some of the "lighter" songs are on point:
Black With No Money

^^^that's a tight track....^^^
and no my overall rating ain't changed 

i see 
have you listened to the album recently?
anyway, i was looking at your ratings and I'm a bit surprised that you gave Daddy don't leave me a 6/10 rating 
was the hook acceptable for you? 

it's been a while since I listened to it as a album,but I still got it in rotation....
...and Daddy don't leave me is gone from my playlist    can't even remember the track anymore 

lol, how can you say that the ratings are still accurate then     

The album is Really Nice!!

I was not expecting anything but good music, and he delivered!

i see, thanks for cheeking it 

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and even some of the "lighter" songs are on point:
Black With No Money

^^^that's a tight track....^^^
and no my overall rating ain't changed 

i see 
have you listened to the album recently?
anyway, i was looking at your ratings and I'm a bit surprised that you gave Daddy don't leave me a 6/10 rating 
was the hook acceptable for you? 

it's been a while since I listened to it as a album,but I still got it in rotation....
...and Daddy don't leave me is gone from my playlist    can't even remember the track anymore 

lol, how can you say that the ratings are still accurate then     

you got a point there...  ok... I knock off a half point. New rating; 3.2 out of 5. 

more like 2.75/5 or 5.5/10 

[Dre-Day]

and even some of the "lighter" songs are on point:
Black With No Money

^^^that's a tight track....^^^
and no my overall rating ain't changed 

i see 
have you listened to the album recently?
anyway, i was looking at your ratings and I'm a bit surprised that you gave Daddy don't leave me a 6/10 rating 
was the hook acceptable for you? 

it's been a while since I listened to it as a album,but I still got it in rotation....
...and Daddy don't leave me is gone from my playlist    can't even remember the track anymore 

lol, how can you say that the ratings are still accurate then     

you got a point there...  OK... I knock off a half point. New rating; 3.2 out of 5. 

more like 2.75/5 or 5.5/10 

I was trying to be nice  ..... but fuck it,I'll give it a spin now (the tracks I still got in rotation).. and give you a ".... months after the release" opinion 

ok that's confusing; trying to be nice is equal to contradicting yourself?   
anyway, thanks 

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in rotation; (all tracks; 3.5 or higher)
-2 Mr. Murderer
-3 Before I'm Out
-4 Mind Of A Lunatic
-7 Black With No Money (feat. Christi B.)
-8 G-None Reala (feat. Six2, El Dog, & Nina Ross)
-11 Serial Killer
-12 Live By The Gun
-15 U Need That (feat. El Dog)
-16 No Place (feat. Money Waters)
-18 Payback (feat El Dog)

10 out of 19 tracks is about half..... that should equal 2.75 out of 5 as you said  .
But I like to add 0.25 anyway,yes to be nice......  contraticting or not  ,but I don't like to remember this album as weak 
So 3 out of 5 (rating = average).  thatīs it 

oh you mean it like that; overall rating, my bad
i guess 2 things got mixed up.

anyway 6/10 sounds fair to me, but that means your new rating is one point lower than the original one, as i remember that you first gave it a 7/10 

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in rotation; (all tracks; 3.5 or higher)
-2 Mr. Murderer
-3 Before I'm Out
-4 Mind Of A Lunatic
-7 Black With No Money (feat. Christi B.)
-8 G-None Reala (feat. Six2, El Dog, & Nina Ross)
-11 Serial Killer
-12 Live By The Gun
-15 U Need That (feat. El Dog)
-16 No Place (feat. Money Waters)
-18 Payback (feat El Dog)

10 out of 19 tracks is about half..... that should equal 2.75 out of 5 as you said  .
But I like to add 0.25 anyway,yes to be nice......  contraticting or not  ,but I don't like to remember this album as weak 
So 3 out of 5 (rating = average).  thatīs it 

oh you mean it like that; overall rating, my bad
i guess 2 things got mixed up.

anyway 6/10 sounds fair to me, but that means your new rating is one point lower than the original one, as i remember that you first gave it a 7/10 

yep... everything canīt be a classic. 

correction: a drop of more than one point 

anyway, yeah some tracks must not have had much replay value for you then