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El the Self Image:

--- Quote from: Shallow on December 31, 2008, 12:20:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: El the Self Image on December 31, 2008, 08:57:50 AM ---
--- Quote from: Waassup Bitch on December 30, 2008, 10:02:27 PM ---you're talking bullshit homie, ya need to read a book or sumthing, catholicism is founded on jesus life, how could it been there before him, only judaism was there before. Anyway you can think what you want doesn't mather to me

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No Bullshit homie, check out this website, http://www.theinfovault.net
Much of the information about the status of the Catholic Church was recovered from The Dead Sea Scrolls which were discovered in 1941, Much of the information from the scrolls, however, has been kept from public view.....

There are always people like me, who will stop at nothing to get the information out..... the website I just gave you has brief paragraphs quoted from the dead sea scrolls along with detailed break downs of the meaning.... I invite you to do your own research, and if you can prove me wrong, do so.... we'll all be better for it.....

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So what was Catholicism all about in those years before Jesus? Where was their base of operations? What countries were they in? And what was their religion exactly. I'm not catholic but I do know that it's mostly about Jesus now.

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The Catholic church was about jesus after jesus... it was about God before Jesus....... check out the website, or if you feel like waiting until after New Years, I will come back and post the actual text that I read.....

Shallow:

--- Quote from: El the Self Image on December 31, 2008, 12:28:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on December 31, 2008, 12:20:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: El the Self Image on December 31, 2008, 08:57:50 AM ---
--- Quote from: Waassup Bitch on December 30, 2008, 10:02:27 PM ---you're talking bullshit homie, ya need to read a book or sumthing, catholicism is founded on jesus life, how could it been there before him, only judaism was there before. Anyway you can think what you want doesn't mather to me

--- End quote ---

No Bullshit homie, check out this website, http://www.theinfovault.net
Much of the information about the status of the Catholic Church was recovered from The Dead Sea Scrolls which were discovered in 1941, Much of the information from the scrolls, however, has been kept from public view.....

There are always people like me, who will stop at nothing to get the information out..... the website I just gave you has brief paragraphs quoted from the dead sea scrolls along with detailed break downs of the meaning.... I invite you to do your own research, and if you can prove me wrong, do so.... we'll all be better for it.....

--- End quote ---

So what was Catholicism all about in those years before Jesus? Where was their base of operations? What countries were they in? And what was their religion exactly. I'm not catholic but I do know that it's mostly about Jesus now.

--- End quote ---

The Catholic church was about jesus after jesus... it was about God before Jesus....... check out the website, or if you feel like waiting until after New Years, I will come back and post the actual text that I read.....

--- End quote ---


Who cares anyway? The Catholic Church didn't have any power until Rome joined Christianity. Even then it was not the cause of evil but the effect of it. The faith was used as a vehicle to control the masses and the church was used as a vehicle to grant power. The main corruption and power started in feudal Europe. All these Kings had all these sons that weren't their first born. So while the first born got to be King there wasn't much left for the rest of the boys. This is when Kings started strong arming these sons and nephews into church positions like cardinals and such. What you were left with were people with no true faith running a church and that's where Martin Luther and the bunch jumped in and said we've lost our way. Centuries before that the Greeks saw the writing on the wall and abandoned ship of course.

El the Self Image:

--- Quote from: Shallow on December 31, 2008, 01:05:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: El the Self Image on December 31, 2008, 12:28:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on December 31, 2008, 12:20:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: El the Self Image on December 31, 2008, 08:57:50 AM ---
--- Quote from: Waassup Bitch on December 30, 2008, 10:02:27 PM ---you're talking bullshit homie, ya need to read a book or sumthing, catholicism is founded on jesus life, how could it been there before him, only judaism was there before. Anyway you can think what you want doesn't mather to me

--- End quote ---

No Bullshit homie, check out this website, http://www.theinfovault.net
Much of the information about the status of the Catholic Church was recovered from The Dead Sea Scrolls which were discovered in 1941, Much of the information from the scrolls, however, has been kept from public view.....

There are always people like me, who will stop at nothing to get the information out..... the website I just gave you has brief paragraphs quoted from the dead sea scrolls along with detailed break downs of the meaning.... I invite you to do your own research, and if you can prove me wrong, do so.... we'll all be better for it.....

--- End quote ---

So what was Catholicism all about in those years before Jesus? Where was their base of operations? What countries were they in? And what was their religion exactly. I'm not catholic but I do know that it's mostly about Jesus now.

--- End quote ---

The Catholic church was about jesus after jesus... it was about God before Jesus....... check out the website, or if you feel like waiting until after New Years, I will come back and post the actual text that I read.....

--- End quote ---


Who cares anyway? The Catholic Church didn't have any power until Rome joined Christianity. Even then it was not the cause of evil but the effect of it. The faith was used as a vehicle to control the masses and the church was used as a vehicle to grant power. The main corruption and power started in feudal Europe. All these Kings had all these sons that weren't their first born. So while the first born got to be King there wasn't much left for the rest of the boys. This is when Kings started strong arming these sons and nephews into church positions like cardinals and such. What you were left with were people with no true faith running a church and that's where Martin Luther and the bunch jumped in and said we've lost our way. Centuries before that the Greeks saw the writing on the wall and abandoned ship of course.

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^^^exactly....

Shallow:

--- Quote from: El the Self Image on December 31, 2008, 02:15:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on December 31, 2008, 01:05:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: El the Self Image on December 31, 2008, 12:28:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on December 31, 2008, 12:20:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: El the Self Image on December 31, 2008, 08:57:50 AM ---
--- Quote from: Waassup Bitch on December 30, 2008, 10:02:27 PM ---you're talking bullshit homie, ya need to read a book or sumthing, catholicism is founded on jesus life, how could it been there before him, only judaism was there before. Anyway you can think what you want doesn't mather to me

--- End quote ---

No Bullshit homie, check out this website, http://www.theinfovault.net
Much of the information about the status of the Catholic Church was recovered from The Dead Sea Scrolls which were discovered in 1941, Much of the information from the scrolls, however, has been kept from public view.....

There are always people like me, who will stop at nothing to get the information out..... the website I just gave you has brief paragraphs quoted from the dead sea scrolls along with detailed break downs of the meaning.... I invite you to do your own research, and if you can prove me wrong, do so.... we'll all be better for it.....

--- End quote ---

So what was Catholicism all about in those years before Jesus? Where was their base of operations? What countries were they in? And what was their religion exactly. I'm not catholic but I do know that it's mostly about Jesus now.

--- End quote ---

The Catholic church was about jesus after jesus... it was about God before Jesus....... check out the website, or if you feel like waiting until after New Years, I will come back and post the actual text that I read.....

--- End quote ---


Who cares anyway? The Catholic Church didn't have any power until Rome joined Christianity. Even then it was not the cause of evil but the effect of it. The faith was used as a vehicle to control the masses and the church was used as a vehicle to grant power. The main corruption and power started in feudal Europe. All these Kings had all these sons that weren't their first born. So while the first born got to be King there wasn't much left for the rest of the boys. This is when Kings started strong arming these sons and nephews into church positions like cardinals and such. What you were left with were people with no true faith running a church and that's where Martin Luther and the bunch jumped in and said we've lost our way. Centuries before that the Greeks saw the writing on the wall and abandoned ship of course.

--- End quote ---
^^^exactly....

--- End quote ---


Huh? What are we debating. That there was this secret religion that infiltrated Rome at the same time Rome was getting fed up by Christians and the two merged and became the Catholic Church of Christ?

El the Self Image:

--- Quote from: Shallow on December 31, 2008, 04:03:05 PM ---
--- Quote from: El the Self Image on December 31, 2008, 02:15:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on December 31, 2008, 01:05:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: El the Self Image on December 31, 2008, 12:28:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on December 31, 2008, 12:20:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: El the Self Image on December 31, 2008, 08:57:50 AM ---
--- Quote from: Waassup Bitch on December 30, 2008, 10:02:27 PM ---you're talking bullshit homie, ya need to read a book or sumthing, catholicism is founded on jesus life, how could it been there before him, only judaism was there before. Anyway you can think what you want doesn't mather to me

--- End quote ---

No Bullshit homie, check out this website, http://www.theinfovault.net
Much of the information about the status of the Catholic Church was recovered from The Dead Sea Scrolls which were discovered in 1941, Much of the information from the scrolls, however, has been kept from public view.....

There are always people like me, who will stop at nothing to get the information out..... the website I just gave you has brief paragraphs quoted from the dead sea scrolls along with detailed break downs of the meaning.... I invite you to do your own research, and if you can prove me wrong, do so.... we'll all be better for it.....

--- End quote ---

So what was Catholicism all about in those years before Jesus? Where was their base of operations? What countries were they in? And what was their religion exactly. I'm not catholic but I do know that it's mostly about Jesus now.

--- End quote ---

The Catholic church was about jesus after jesus... it was about God before Jesus....... check out the website, or if you feel like waiting until after New Years, I will come back and post the actual text that I read.....

--- End quote ---


Who cares anyway? The Catholic Church didn't have any power until Rome joined Christianity. Even then it was not the cause of evil but the effect of it. The faith was used as a vehicle to control the masses and the church was used as a vehicle to grant power. The main corruption and power started in feudal Europe. All these Kings had all these sons that weren't their first born. So while the first born got to be King there wasn't much left for the rest of the boys. This is when Kings started strong arming these sons and nephews into church positions like cardinals and such. What you were left with were people with no true faith running a church and that's where Martin Luther and the bunch jumped in and said we've lost our way. Centuries before that the Greeks saw the writing on the wall and abandoned ship of course.

--- End quote ---
^^^exactly....

--- End quote ---


Huh? What are we debating. That there was this secret religion that infiltrated Rome at the same time Rome was getting fed up by Christians and the two merged and became the Catholic Church of Christ?

--- End quote ---

well, what dude said was essentially true, although, it was different from my original point...
there is no one specific debate in this thread.... at least not for me...

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