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MDogg why do you support this idea of a "new, new deal" with Obama? Not logical
Jared Taylor:
--- Quote from: Infinite African West Coastin on January 05, 2009, 10:41:16 PM ---Actually you do bring up a good argument. I've actually wondered to myself how I could like hiphop still even though Im no longer sociolist in my political views.
First of all, its kind of like that woman you love even though you know she's being dishonest, or the son you love unconditionally even though he doesn't listen to your advice anymore. I love hip-hop, its a part of my history.
Also, there is so much more to hip-hop then just sociolist propaganda. It's artwork, its insightful, and agree or disagree with what they are saying but you can still appreciate the way they express it.
Last point, some of hiphop IS libertarian. Because hiphop expresses an artists individuality, creativity, and is often very non-conformist. So therefore, in that way it is compatible with the Libertarian ideals of individualism and personal freedom.
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About the only thing I've noticed hip-hop has in common with the Libertarian ideology is that both seem to agree that the War on Drugs is stupid (like that Cypress Hill song, what was it called? "Legalize It"?)
There may be more to hip-hop than socialist propaganda, but that's always been a very big part of it. I have never heard of a rapper who is pro-Free Market or anti-socialized medicine.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Jared Taylor on January 06, 2009, 11:01:13 AM ---
--- Quote from: Infinite African West Coastin on January 05, 2009, 10:41:16 PM ---Actually you do bring up a good argument. I've actually wondered to myself how I could like hiphop still even though Im no longer sociolist in my political views.
First of all, its kind of like that woman you love even though you know she's being dishonest, or the son you love unconditionally even though he doesn't listen to your advice anymore. I love hip-hop, its a part of my history.
Also, there is so much more to hip-hop then just sociolist propaganda. It's artwork, its insightful, and agree or disagree with what they are saying but you can still appreciate the way they express it.
Last point, some of hiphop IS libertarian. Because hiphop expresses an artists individuality, creativity, and is often very non-conformist. So therefore, in that way it is compatible with the Libertarian ideals of individualism and personal freedom.
--- End quote ---
About the only thing I've noticed hip-hop has in common with the Libertarian ideology is that both seem to agree that the War on Drugs is stupid (like that Cypress Hill song, what was it called? "Legalize It"?)
There may be more to hip-hop than socialist propaganda, but that's always been a very big part of it. I have never heard of a rapper who is pro-Free Market or anti-socialized medicine.
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Yet they often praise and claim to be a part of the biggest free market in America; the illegal drug business.
El the Self Image:
--- Quote from: Jared Taylor on January 06, 2009, 11:01:13 AM ---
--- Quote from: Infinite African West Coastin on January 05, 2009, 10:41:16 PM ---Actually you do bring up a good argument. I've actually wondered to myself how I could like hiphop still even though Im no longer sociolist in my political views.
First of all, its kind of like that woman you love even though you know she's being dishonest, or the son you love unconditionally even though he doesn't listen to your advice anymore. I love hip-hop, its a part of my history.
Also, there is so much more to hip-hop then just sociolist propaganda. It's artwork, its insightful, and agree or disagree with what they are saying but you can still appreciate the way they express it.
Last point, some of hiphop IS libertarian. Because hiphop expresses an artists individuality, creativity, and is often very non-conformist. So therefore, in that way it is compatible with the Libertarian ideals of individualism and personal freedom.
--- End quote ---
About the only thing I've noticed hip-hop has in common with the Libertarian ideology is that both seem to agree that the War on Drugs is stupid (like that Cypress Hill song, what was it called? "Legalize It"?)
There may be more to hip-hop than socialist propaganda, but that's always been a very big part of it. I have never heard of a rapper who is pro-Free Market or anti-socialized medicine.
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ummm, I find it hard to draw that close of a relationship between Hip-Hop and socialism..... I mean, I've seen it, sure, but if you could reach into Hip-Hop like a box of Cheerios, I don't see where socialist propaganda would make up even 25% of your hand-ful.... I just don't see it....
With the WIDE WIDE WIDE range of Hip-Hop that I personally listen to, most Hip-Hop is neither socialist nor liberterian..... Most rappers fall right into the same psychological traps as any other average American citizen.... IMHO.....
Please elaborate your views more, I'm curious....
Jared Taylor:
--- Quote from: El the Self Image on January 06, 2009, 04:45:28 PM ---ummm, I find it hard to draw that close of a relationship between Hip-Hop and socialism..... I mean, I've seen it, sure, but if you could reach into Hip-Hop like a box of Cheerios, I don't see where socialist propaganda would make up even 25% of your hand-ful.... I just don't see it....
With the WIDE WIDE WIDE range of Hip-Hop that I personally listen to, most Hip-Hop is neither socialist nor liberterian..... Most rappers fall right into the same psychological traps as any other average American citizen.... IMHO.....
Please elaborate your views more, I'm curious....
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The whole victimhood mentality that rappers use to justify their drug-dealing and murdering is consistent with what leftists believe. Of course, as a racial realist, I know that the reason blacks actually act this way is because it's in their genetics to be selfish, lazy, and tribal.
--- Quote from: Shallow on January 06, 2009, 04:29:17 PM ---Yet they often praise and claim to be a part of the biggest free market in America; the illegal drug business.
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That may be true, but what does the typical rapper say whenever he makes a shallow (no pun intended) attempt to be political? Something to the effects of, "Yeah, I sold drugs and shot some niggaz, but it ain't my fault, yo. It's society's fault, cause the crackers and they government be givin' us the drugs and guns, yo. Blame whitey, blame AmeriKKKa. Yo. Yo. Yo." In other words, the message these rappers are sending across is that if the government would just implement a socialist society, they wouldn't have to be gangbangers and drug dealers.
El the Self Image:
--- Quote from: Jared Taylor on January 07, 2009, 12:55:30 PM ---
--- Quote from: El the Self Image on January 06, 2009, 04:45:28 PM ---ummm, I find it hard to draw that close of a relationship between Hip-Hop and socialism..... I mean, I've seen it, sure, but if you could reach into Hip-Hop like a box of Cheerios, I don't see where socialist propaganda would make up even 25% of your hand-ful.... I just don't see it....
With the WIDE WIDE WIDE range of Hip-Hop that I personally listen to, most Hip-Hop is neither socialist nor liberterian..... Most rappers fall right into the same psychological traps as any other average American citizen.... IMHO.....
Please elaborate your views more, I'm curious....
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The whole victimhood mentality that rappers use to justify their drug-dealing and murdering is consistent with what leftists believe. Of course, as a racial realist, I know that the reason blacks actually act this way is because it's in their genetics to be selfish, lazy, and tribal.
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^^^One, that was WWAYY left field from the question that I asked.....
Two, that is some racists back-woods increadibly insulting shit you believe in.....
If you really want to know what's in the Black Genome, you should ask an export instead of whoever the hell you've been talkin to cause they're giving you some fucked up information....
Here, I'll help you out...
http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/home.shtml
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