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--- Quote from: Shallow on January 10, 2009, 12:27:37 AM ---I think the officer should be charged and I think he should do time. And I really do think it was an accident. This wasn't Rodney King where it was the middle of the night with no one around. It was a crowded subway station with a lot of witnesses. Why would any cop be so stupid to kill someone in cold blood with that many people watching? I just don't think that it being a mistake makes it any more ok. People get drunk and accidentally kill people in car crashes all the time, but they get charged and convicted.
The police are a united group like any other group. Sure they get paid by the people to serve and protect but they are still a brotherhood that protects each other against the the outsiders. Oakland had something like 124 homicides last year, from what I've read. How many of those 124 in 2008 were young black men killed in cold blood by other black men? And how many of those that rioted or protested this would give up any of those that killed those young black men last year if they could? A lot of black people complain to the moon about what the police do but they themselves do and would do the exact same thing. If some 21 year old black thug kills another 21 year old black thug and you say nothing you aren't protecting anyone from the law of the oppressors. You are protecting lies from the truth and doing a greater disservice to your own community than any cop could ever do.
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The problem is, with the distrust that exists between the Black community (and other minority communities) and the police department, what motivation would there be to work WITH the police to uphold supposed justice in your neighborhood? When you've grown up watching the police mistreat, harrass, abuse and even kill members of your own community...many times completely unwarranted, would you have ANYthing to do with them? As an outsider looking in, without the proper frame of reference its easy to judge. But the Black community (for good reason) does not trust the police. Yeah, Oakland as a city has one of the highest percentages of Black people in the country...so there is a lot of Black on Black crime. But those criminals, and much of a nuisance as they may be....are not police. They dont carry a badge, they dont pretend to be on the side of good, and they have no authority over everyday citizens. The police do. So its natural to have more hatred/ disgust/ etc. towards the police when they act like common criminals and are SUPPOSED to be the good guys (not to mention, paid by the very people who they kill).
Þŕiņçë:
damn my homie works across the st from city hall an got sent home early cause of the riots haha
oh and i hope that mother fucker does life
Shallow:
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on January 16, 2009, 11:34:22 AM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on January 10, 2009, 12:27:37 AM ---I think the officer should be charged and I think he should do time. And I really do think it was an accident. This wasn't Rodney King where it was the middle of the night with no one around. It was a crowded subway station with a lot of witnesses. Why would any cop be so stupid to kill someone in cold blood with that many people watching? I just don't think that it being a mistake makes it any more ok. People get drunk and accidentally kill people in car crashes all the time, but they get charged and convicted.
The police are a united group like any other group. Sure they get paid by the people to serve and protect but they are still a brotherhood that protects each other against the the outsiders. Oakland had something like 124 homicides last year, from what I've read. How many of those 124 in 2008 were young black men killed in cold blood by other black men? And how many of those that rioted or protested this would give up any of those that killed those young black men last year if they could? A lot of black people complain to the moon about what the police do but they themselves do and would do the exact same thing. If some 21 year old black thug kills another 21 year old black thug and you say nothing you aren't protecting anyone from the law of the oppressors. You are protecting lies from the truth and doing a greater disservice to your own community than any cop could ever do.
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The problem is, with the distrust that exists between the Black community (and other minority communities) and the police department, what motivation would there be to work WITH the police to uphold supposed justice in your neighborhood? When you've grown up watching the police mistreat, harrass, abuse and even kill members of your own community...many times completely unwarranted, would you have ANYthing to do with them? As an outsider looking in, without the proper frame of reference its easy to judge. But the Black community (for good reason) does not trust the police. Yeah, Oakland as a city has one of the highest percentages of Black people in the country...so there is a lot of Black on Black crime. But those criminals, and much of a nuisance as they may be....are not police. They dont carry a badge, they dont pretend to be on the side of good, and they have no authority over everyday citizens. The police do. So its natural to have more hatred/ disgust/ etc. towards the police when they act like common criminals and are SUPPOSED to be the good guys (not to mention, paid by the very people who they kill).
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I never said that blacks should rise up and start testifying against black murderers. I just said that they don't. And it's the same reason the police don't. They both protect each other from what they consider to be outsiders. I just pointed out the hypocrisy of it. Cops killing black men is nothing compared to black men killing black men in America and I don't need the proper frame of reference to point out the numbers.
As for your paid by the very people who they kill comment, I'd like to see the figures of tax dollars paid by the black men killed by police and see show much they really pay the police. Middle class America pays for the police, and the ghettos. And for the most part they aren't negatively affected by either.
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