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The new white nationalism - WHAT we stand for
virtuoso:
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--- Quote from: virtuoso on January 27, 2009, 05:44:09 AM ---then surely western governments must also recognise this and so it would lead one to ask why they would be so happy to populate the west with muslims? sounds like they want chaos to me but you said real conspiracy's don't exist? The intention of that comment is not even to be sarcastic, I am just simply taking the lines within what you have written albeit an excerpt and just trying to demonstrate that in them seems to lie a real contradiction.
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There is no contradiction. Western governments are dominated by self-hating white liberals and Marxists who want to believe in the "equality" crap that they were raised on for their entire lives. It's not so much a conspiracy as the inevitable outgrowth of white guilt. I am trying to make whites realize that they do not have to feel guilty, and that doing so puts them in a vulnerable position.
And ultimately, it's quite likely we're going to see the rise of true conservative parties (like the British National Party) in Europe within the next decade, which will lead to mass deportation of jihadists and their sympathizers in the European Muslim communities.
But what would you know? You're the one who wants to believe there's a Jewish/Israeli conspiracy. You're on the same level as the REAL fascists.
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Where did I say it was an jewish conspiracy? the groups that run the world are the royal families and the bankers who are predominantly are jewish that's true. However to claim I think it's a jewish conspiracy is a falsehood because of the above and b) these international bodies consist of many different races and religions. What you are saying in response to what I asked, does not make sense since it's the think tanks which are financed by big business which create the policies. This is what I don't understand once again, you are trying to tell me that the most powerful people running the show only want to create equality? feel guilt. It seems you are compartmentalizing my question since it is these very same groups who have created this environment in the first place.
The ideology that drives these people has nothing to do with guilt, it seems you still don't get it do you, the global elite have smashed the third world, capturing their resources and sucking any wealth dry. The money is created, simply printed, handed to the governments to build up their economies but in turn come with conditions which lead to total power. Now though as they "it's a small world" real economic output has slowed, and so the attention of these groups has now focused it's attention inwards, hence the bank bail outs which will keep coming, whilst credit will keep drying up. Of course it's a conspiracy. So I find it hard to believe that in knowing that, you can simply address the idea of mass immigration as "guilt" they know what they are doing.
P.S I don't believe that Islam is inherently evil but I used that to illustrate my point
Jared Taylor:
--- Quote from: virtuoso on January 27, 2009, 02:50:59 PM ---Where did I say it was an jewish conspiracy?
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You just started a topic about how the Israelis own news agencies.
--- Quote from: virtuoso on January 27, 2009, 02:50:59 PM ---This is what I don't understand once again, you are trying to tell me that the most powerful people running the show only want to create equality?
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The "most powerful people" aren't some monolithic entity which have all the same views. However, most professors and journalists are ultra-liberals who vote Democrat and have strong pro-equality feelings, and who have a need to feel they're championing a cause. So they force multi-cultural propaganda down people's throats, to a point where anyone who does not espouse their views is ostracized and treated as evil.
Unlike you, I don't look for some evil conspiracy plot, which is obviously bullshit. The people who are shoving us down the road to a multi-cultural society are well-intentioned. But the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
Jared Taylor:
--- Quote from: Pacific Standard on January 27, 2009, 12:46:00 PM ---However I don't know why simply sharing that philosophy makes me a "white nationalist". If I accept those facts as truth, why do I need to be part of a movement, can't I just be my own person with no affiliation to anything?
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You aren't unless you believe that a white society is preferable to a mixed-race society. That is what white nationalism is. We may draw from many arguments that conservatives of the mainstream variety have championed for years, but we draw different conclusions. There are, for instance, many conservatives who take a stand against affirmative action, and who believe that slavery, segregation, and insufficient social spending do not explain why blacks are prone to poverty and crime. However, almost none of those in the mainstream (i.e. the Republican Party) would ever dare argue that race has anything to do with this. They're more likely to blame problems in the black community upon a lack of proper family values (translation: they'll be better if they go to Church) and the ghetto culture (translation: ban rap music). The thought that blacks are genetically prone to such behavior is something they will always stop short of arguing. Whereas I won't.
Rugged Monk:
--- Quote from: Jared Taylor on January 27, 2009, 07:24:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Pacific Standard on January 27, 2009, 12:46:00 PM ---However I don't know why simply sharing that philosophy makes me a "white nationalist". If I accept those facts as truth, why do I need to be part of a movement, can't I just be my own person with no affiliation to anything?
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You aren't unless you believe that a white society is preferable to a mixed-race society. That is what white nationalism is. We may draw from many arguments that conservatives of the mainstream variety have championed for years, but we draw different conclusions. There are, for instance, many conservatives who take a stand against affirmative action, and who believe that slavery, segregation, and insufficient social spending do not explain why blacks are prone to poverty and crime. However, almost none of those in the mainstream (i.e. the Republican Party) would ever dare argue that race has anything to do with this. They're more likely to blame problems in the black community upon a lack of proper family values (translation: they'll be better if they go to Church) and the ghetto culture (translation: ban rap music). The thought that blacks are genetically prone to such behavior is something they will always stop short of arguing. Whereas I won't.
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Boom. See thats where we differ: you think its down to one's nature and intelligence is hereditary. Scientist have found certain genes give a disposition towards certain aspects like types of emotions and intelliigence however its nurture/one's upbringing and environment and personal will, etc that determines intelligence/contribution to society. So we know now race and genetics have a little to do with it but also nothing to do with it when compared to extraneous factors and one's postion in the world and environment and one's personal will.
If my hand had free reign and the ability to i'd impose a secular UN dictatorship upon Israel and Palestine and forcefully spoon feed their children a liberal secular enlightenment inter-religious education...I'd encourage inter-faith, bi-racial and bi-cultural relationships and families ......Plus I'd rebuild Solomon's Temple...
Rugged Monk:
--- Quote from: Pacific Standard on January 27, 2009, 12:46:00 PM ---why do I need to be part of a movement, can't I just be my own person with no affiliation to anything? To me lack of independent thought and an established "movement" pertaining to racial attitudes is what has separated whites from others in the first place.
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WORD.
Although you know, Farrakhan isn't really a seperatist or at least since 2002 he isn't a seperatisit. I know alot of brothers suffering from post-traumatic slave syndrome probably lean that way.
But Farrakhan is not a seperatist.
http://www.youtube.com/v/YDbLUw3GkSE&hl=en&fs=1
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