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Wake Up! Barack Obama is part of the Illuminati

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virtuoso:
Wtf, under Bush's plans the troops were going to slowly pull out of Iraq! they are not pulling out totally so wtf are you talking about. Stop with this delusional bs, the troops are slowly pulling out some of those troops will be used to bolster the presence in Afghanistan!, so much for isolationism. He is never going to pull out the troop presence from Iraq either, it seems you like to ignore or pretend this part isn't so, but those bases are already established. You can call yourself a leftist, you can call me a right winger, whatever, but fact is still fact and actually, many right wingers support wars and many leftists don't, so go figure.

Also I NEVER suggested that Obama was responsible for the banking crisis however what I am pointing out is that prior to the much hyped bailout, the central bank had given trillions to the banks, that liquidity was being kept by the banks though and so everyone knew what would happen when the public hype surrounding bank bailout kicked in, they would do the same thing and yet Obama supported the bank bail outs. He is the guy supporting the stimulus package, it's not designed to help! they have their own designs. Oh and please don't repeat the mantra of conspiracy theorist, nope it's conspiring to rob the americans and the west blind with the complicit help of the politicians/figureheads.

M Dogg™:

--- Quote from: virtuoso on February 12, 2009, 08:33:18 AM ---
Wtf, under Bush's plans the troops were going to slowly pull out of Iraq! they are not pulling out totally so wtf are you talking about. Stop with this delusional bs, the troops are slowly pulling out some of those troops will be used to bolster the presence in Afghanistan!, so much for isolationism. He is never going to pull out the troop presence from Iraq either, it seems you like to ignore or pretend this part isn't so, but those bases are already established. You can call yourself a leftist, you can call me a right winger, whatever, but fact is still fact and actually, many right wingers support wars and many leftists don't, so go figure.

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War has not wing or label. Left and Right are based of taxes and only taxes. Everything else is a moral choice. I'm a leftist but I'm a pro-life Catholic. So labels really mean shit. Just talk that people use so I use it too.

Now for Iraq, the only reason Bush wanted to pull out slowly was because Obama was going to win and Iraq wants us out. So Bush, who's leadership sucked, caved to the public and set up the slow with draw. Don't try to twist history for yourself. Bush was talking about being in Iraq for many years, he wanted us to be in there for a long time and has said as much. It was pressure for Obama's support and Iraq it's self that Bush had to change his strategy.

virtuoso:
On the contrary I am not twisting history "experts" predict 8-10 year stay in Iraq. However that AGAIN ignores the established bases, they didn't establish more than half a dozen bases to pull them down within a decade!. However when you hear a short stay in Iraq it makes it sound reassuring and in addition, in 10 years time you won't give a fuck if they are still in Iraq, that's the whole point!

M Dogg™:

--- Quote from: virtuoso on February 12, 2009, 08:45:36 AM ---On the contrary I am not twisting history "experts" predict 8-10 year stay in Iraq. However that AGAIN ignores the established bases, they didn't establish more than half a dozen bases to pull them down within a decade!. However when you hear a short stay in Iraq it makes it sound reassuring and in addition, in 10 years time you won't give a fuck if they are still in Iraq, that's the whole point!

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Since when was George Bush an expert???

virtuoso:

Lol Bush never was an expert, he didn't devise the plan to go into Iraq, he didn't devise any kind of blueprint, he just stumbled and mumbled and played golf a lot.

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