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Best clutch player? 82games.com
« on: February 18, 2009, 03:01:38 PM »

Kobe is nice obviously, Chris Paul has had a few nice ones lately, B-roy is the shit, Lebron is better than people think (he scores the most 4th quarter points in close games of anyone in the league), but this one website keeps track of this shit, so check it below.  Can't believe someone has the time to do all this.........

Melo the best??????????? Hmmmmmmmm.

And Lakers fans, I know stats don't matter to you when they don't support your cause so don't read anymore cuz' you won't like this shit.   

http://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm


Game Winning Shots
by Roland Beech, 82games.com
   

(Corrected 2/9 for Dwyane Wade 03-04 errors..."Dwayne")

Ah yes, when it comes to requests for updated stats on features we've done in the past, nothing comes close to the clamor for another look at "game winning shots" in the NBA. The last time we investigated this was way back on 4/13/2006 as part of the Random Stat collection, and Carmelo Anthony came out on top for the most shots made by the definition we used (see below) as well as doing it with a wonderful .647 field goal percentage. That is a long time ago though, so let's see what the current word is!

First off there's really one main issue -- what exactly do we want to define as a game winning shot? If we make it too restrictive, as in a real last second shot at the buzzer, then you are dealing with tiny, tiny sample sizes. So instead, we proposed the following filter:

Game Winning Shot Opportunity = 24 seconds or less left in the game, team with the ball is either tied or down by 1 to 2 points.

Why use this definition?

   1. With 24 seconds or less, then it truly is a "last possession" situation potentially
   2. With a margin from tied to down 2, the team can take the lead with a made basket (including 3's)
   3. By excluding a down 3 situation, we don't have the "gimme two point buckets" that defenses will sometimes yield to the quick bucket/intentional foul strategy option you often see exercised.

Obviously though this definition means a shot may not actually be a game winner -- it may only tie a game (if down two points) or it may allow enough time for the opponents to get a game winning shot of their own. Still it seems a reasonable compromise.

Data sample
Regular Seasons: '03-04, '04-05, '05-06, '06-07, '07-08, '08-09 (thru 2/4)
Playoffs: '03-04, '04-05, '05-06, '06-07, '07-08

So we're looking at five full regular and playoff seasons, with additionally the current 08-09 season so far.

Leading "Game Winning Shot" Players
Player
   
Fgm
   
Fga
   
Fg%
   
Ftm
   
Fta
   
Ast
   
T/O
 League Wide    853     2858     
.298
   610     815     352     296
 LeBron James    17     50     
.340
   14     20     6     4
 Vince Carter    16     51     
.314
   10     11     3     4
 Ray Allen    15     39     
.385
   4     6     1     2
 Kobe Bryant    14     56     
.250
   12     15     1     5
 Carmelo Anthony    13     27     
.481
   7     11     1     4
 Allen Iverson    13     33     
.394
   6     8     1     2
 Ben Gordon    12     34     
.353
   6     6     1     4
 Dirk Nowitzki    12     37     
.324
   13     18     1     3
 Joe Johnson    12     45     
.267
   2     3     4     2
 Paul Pierce    11     32     
.344
   15     17     9     3
 Dwyane Wade    11     40     
.275
   13     17     3     2
 Jamal Crawford    11     43     
.256
   4     6     3     3
 Rashard Lewis    10     26     
.385
   10     13     0     1
 Ricky Davis    10     28     
.357
   11     11     2     1
 Antawn Jamison    9     16     
.563
   2     5     0     1
 Pau Gasol    9     18     
.500
   4     6     1     4
 Steve Francis    9     22     
.409
   4     5     2     2
 Tim Duncan    9     23     
.391
   6     7     3     1
 Gilbert Arenas    9     28     
.321
   18     18     0     4
 Michael Redd    9     30     
.300
   8     14     0     1
 Tracy McGrady    9     32     
.281
   8     8     3     1
 Kevin Garnett    9     33     
.273
   3     3     1     0
 Hedo Turkoglu    8     16     
.500
   2     3     3     3
 Derek Fisher    8     20     
.400
   2     2     2     1
 Chris Paul    8     21     
.381
   3     4     5     1
 Mike Bibby    8     22     
.364
   2     2     6     1
 Richard Hamilton    8     22     
.364
   4     4     3     3
 Andre Iguodala    8     22     
.364
   10     11     2     3
 Jason Terry    8     26     
.308
   2     3     5     1
 Mehmet Okur    7     15     
.467
   4     4     1     0
 Zach Randolph    7     17     
.412
   6     8     0     0
 Brandon Roy    7     19     
.368
   3     4     3     1
 Baron Davis    7     22     
.318
   4     4     4     2
 Raymond Felton    7     24     
.292
   4     5     2     1
 Travis Outlaw    6     7     
.857
   3     5     0     0
 Carlos Boozer    6     9     
.667
   1     1     0     1
 Jalen Rose    6     10     
.600
   4     5     0     4
 Josh Smith    6     11     
.545
   3     3     0     2
 Grant Hill    6     12     
.500
   0     0     0     0
 Damon Jones    6     12     
.500
   1     1     1     0
 Caron Butler    6     13     
.462
   6     7     1     1
 Damon Stoudamire    6     13     
.462
   0     0     4     1
 Kevin Martin    6     14     
.429
   2     3     0     0
 David West    6     15     
.400
   2     2     0     1
 Tyronn Lue    6     16     
.375
   4     6     0     0
 Shawn Marion    6     16     
.375
   2     2     1     0
 Tony Parker    6     16     
.375
   0     0     4     0
 Tayshaun Prince    6     17     
.353
   2     2     5     1
 Deron Williams    6     17     
.353
   3     3     5     1
 Yao Ming    6     18     
.333
   9     10     0     1
 Richard Jefferson    6     19     
.316
   3     4     2     1
 Chris Webber    6     19     
.316
   0     0     1     1
 Manu Ginobili    6     21     
.286
   4     7     3     4
 Chauncey Billups    6     37     
.162
   18     19     6     2
 Eddy Curry    5     7     
.714
   2     2     0     0
 Peja Stojakovic    5     8     
.625
   1     1     1     0
 Kevin Durant    5     14     
.357
   1     1     1     0
 Rudy Gay    5     14     
.357
   3     4     0     1
 Danny Granger    5     14     
.357
   0     0     0     0
 Mike James    5     15     
.333
   3     7     2     0
 Ron Artest    5     16     
.313
   1     1     2     3
 Stephen Jackson    5     20     
.250
   1     1     4     2
 Rasheed Wallace    5     30     
.167
   2     2     0     2
 Ronald Murray    4     4     
%1.000
   5     6     0     1
 David Lee    4     5     
.800
   0     0     0     0
 Andrew Bogut    4     6     
.667
   0     0     2     1
 P.J. Brown    4     7     
.571
   0     0     0     0
 Udonis Haslem    4     8     
.500
   0     0     0     1
 James Posey    4     8     
.500
   1     1     1     1
 Michael Finley    4     9     
.444
   2     2     4     1
 Devin Harris    4     10     
.400
   0     0     1     0
 Larry Hughes    4     10     
.400
   4     4     3     4
 Eddie Jones    4     11     
.364
   0     1     2     0
 T.J. Ford    4     15     
.267
   1     3     3     2
 Mike Miller    4     20     
.200
   0     2     2     2
 Jermaine O'Neal    4     22     
.182
   4     4     1     0
   

The first thing to note is that these types of shots are very difficult on a league wide basis: a .298 Field Goal percentage doesn't exactly inspire confidence!

Part of this is that game winning chances may come with just a couple of seconds or less remaining in the game from the inbounds. So manufacturing any shot at all in some cases is to the player's credit. In some cases it can even be a half court heave!

LeBron James was just 4-19 in our previous look at game winning shots, so in the ensuing two and a half seasons, he has come up with a very respectable 13-31 (.419) record and just the other day had a pure game winner at the buzzer to top the Warriors. In addition he has six assists and a healthy number of free throws earned.

Vince Carter doesn't get a lot of love from fans for the most part but is actually #2 in the standings for most game winners over this period.

Ray Allen is in third overall but also leads in most 3's made under our game winning defined situation specifics, with eight three pointers. Long live the NBA's arguably best pure shooter (Ray also currently leads the NBA in Midrange 2pt FG%).

...and then we get to Kobe Bryant. Kobe fans don't like to hear it, but while their man is #4 in the league in total game winners hit, he holds the top spot in a less glamorous category: most game winning opportunity missed shots!

42 - Kobe
35 - Vince Carter
33 - Joe Johnson, LeBron
32 - Crawford
31 - Billups

Now we're not Kobe haters by any means and I will readily give him his due as one of the best NBA players (note however, I didn't say the best) but he certainly has an overblown reputation when it comes to the clutch shot: people remember the ones he hits, but not the ones he misses, and heck you think a 56 FGA to 1 assist ratio might be part of the problem? He does have a better record in the playoffs though, which we'll get to down below.

Carmelo Anthony has slipped from the former top spot, but still a worthy challenger with the best fg% of any player with at least 10 makes.

Beyond that, you see a lot of familiar names, most with low success rates, and a lot of players with very low assists.

Paul Pierce is an exception as he stands at the head of the class for 'game winning assists' with nine, ahead of Nash, Kidd, Billups, and the rest.

Oy! you say, what about the up and comers who may not have been playing all that long? Obviously Chris Paul (8-21), Igoudala (8-22), and Bradon Roy (7-19) are climbing the charts rapidly. Let's do a quick tab of the season by season leaders (fgm-fga):

'03-04
Stoudamire 5-9
J.Rose 4-4
Yao 4-7
Carter 4-11
R.Allen 3-5
Z.Randolph 3-5
Redd 3-8    '04-05
Iverson 5-7
Francis 5-8
P.J. Brown (!) 4-6
B.Gordon 4-7
Da.Jones 4-7
Pierce 4-9
Wade 4-11    '05-06
Carmelo 7-10
Gasol 6-9
R.Allen 5-11
J.Johnson 5-16
Fisher 4-6
Crawford 4-8
Webber 4-9    '06-07
R.Lewis 5-7
B.Gordon 5-14
R.Davis 4-8
Carter 4-9
Paul 4-9    '07-08
LeBron 6-14
T.Outlaw 5-5
Ginobili 3-4
R.Allen 3-7    '08-09
Granger 5-7
Roy 4-7
R.Mason 3-3
Durant 3-8
Felton 3-8

Now let's turn back to giving Kobe fans the ammunition they need to continue telling us how Mr. Bryant is the most uber-clutch guy in the NBA...with a look at Playoff Game Winning Shots

Leading "Game Winning Shot" Players: PLAYOFFS
Player
   
Fgm
   
Fga
   
Fg%
   
Ftm
   
Fta
   
Ast
   
T/O
NBA    45     159     
.283
   28     37     17     19
 Kobe Bryant    4     8     
.500
   0     0     0     0
 LeBron James    4     8     
.500
   0     1     1     0
 Dirk Nowitzki    3     6     
.500
   6     8     1     1
 Dwyane Wade    2     2     
1.000
   2     2     1     0
 Caron Butler    2     3     
.667
   0     0     0     0
 Gilbert Arenas    2     5     
.400
   3     3     0     0
 Tim Duncan    2     6     
.333
   0     0     1     0
 Manu Ginobili    2     6     
.333
   1     2     2     1
 Chauncey Billups    2     9     
.222
   2     2     0     0

So now you have select company with only eight players, all of them all stars, with at least two makes. And yes, Kobe Bryant is indeed tied for first and with an excellent .500 percentage as well.

The truth seems to be that while we want to believe in the infallible hero who comes through every time, in the NBA even the brightest of the bunch are lucky to come through one out of three times.

Ultimately though while this kind of thing is fun, it's not to my mind particularly meaningful, other than indicating that the league as a whole could probably get more efficient in "end game" possessions...one easy place to start might be to try and be less predictable! It's nice to have a go-to guy, but when the other team knows without much doubt that a certain guy is getting the ball, it is going to be a lot easier to defend!

Jordan won a lot of championships, and personally hit a lot of clutch shots, but there were also games where classic second/third option guys like Paxson and Kerr were the ones benefiting from his greatness by getting open looks and delivering...

So instead of "does my team have a great clutch go-to guy" you might want to ask do we have a plan B?

For better quality analysis of clutch play, I prefer a filter of "last five minutes of fourth quarter/overtime, with neither team ahead by more than five points." Each player has a page for the stats accrued under these circumstances, and we also have sortable tables, eg see
    - '07-08 Clutch Player Leaders
    - '08-09 Clutch Player Leaders
 

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Re: Best clutch player? 82games.com
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2009, 03:43:08 PM »
nice post +1

it really goes to show how hard it is in the nba to hit shots under so much pressure. it also shows that when players can be arsed to play defence they can.
 

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Re: Best clutch player? 82games.com
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2009, 03:55:37 PM »
Melo is actually one of the clutchest players in the league, but being clutch is hell of a lot more than just statistics. It's the ability to keep your cool and carry through in the tough situations, it doesn't necessarily only have to do with making shots (see: the entire UCLA team vs Adam Morrison's Gonzaga in March Madness).

Hell, Dirk's "clutch stats" aren't as bad as everybody would think, and yet he's still internationally known as a choke artist.
 

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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2009, 04:51:16 PM »
that list is can
 

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Re: Best clutch player? 82games.com
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2009, 12:32:30 AM »
LOL@idiots who follow shit like 82games instead of watching games for themselves and making legit judgement...this shit doesnt take into account shit like Kobe not playing most the 4th quarters this year due to every game being a blowout...step it up. according to todays Lakers-Warriors broadcast, Kobe got voted by 80% of the league and 90% of the coaches and gms as the person they'd want to shoot the last shot of the game. the next highest person on the list (probably either wade or lebron) got 3%...3 fucking %...this thread=more proof stats doesn't mean shit.
 

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Re: Best clutch player? 82games.com
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2009, 01:48:24 AM »
Everybody knows Kobe is the definition of clutch player.
 

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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2009, 01:47:13 PM »
LOL@idiots who follow shit like 82games instead of watching games for themselves and making legit judgement...this shit doesnt take into account shit like Kobe not playing most the 4th quarters this year due to every game being a blowout...step it up. according to todays Lakers-Warriors broadcast, Kobe got voted by 80% of the league and 90% of the coaches and gms as the person they'd want to shoot the last shot of the game. the next highest person on the list (probably either wade or lebron) got 3%...3 fucking %...this thread=more proof stats doesn't mean shit.

if stats dont mean shit, how come youve always used them when they were in your favor?

The list is cool and all. NIK brings up a sort of valid point. This year Kobe hasnt been in situations where he needs to hit as many game winning shots cus the Lakers have been winning int he 4th quarter most of the time. What he fails to bring up (conveniently) is that this list is from what, the last 5 yrs. He didnt bring up the fact that before last year, Kobe wasnt having the opportunity to hit many game winnin shots cus his team was behind by too much lol  But thats why with this list you would need to focus on shooting percentage, not the AMOUNT of game winners. Funny enough, in shooting percentage Kobe is near the bottom....Chauncey aswell, who people usually think of as clutch. But the amount of game winners means shit really.
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Re: Best clutch player? 82games.com
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2009, 02:08:29 PM »
Everybody knows Kobe is the definition of clutch player.


...besides stataholics who can't sit through a game. and even they know whatsup deep inside.
 

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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2009, 02:13:31 PM »
Everybody knows Kobe is the definition of clutch player.


...besides stataholics who can't sit through a game. and even they know whatsup deep inside.

Ive never been a huge stat guy, theyre relevant, but they arent everything. With you bashing "stats" so much though right now...in THIS argument. It should be safe to assume you will never use stats as a basis for your arguments anymore right?
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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2009, 02:14:31 PM »
82games.com uses a very narrow definition of clutch plays. There is more to being a clutch performer then just making the final shot. How about performances in the last 2 minutes? 3 minutes? It can be just as crucial as what leads up to that final play. Then again it is pretty hard to factor in all those variables into sortable stats. As far a Kobe goes, I've felt that over the past couple years, he's fallen a little short of his reputation. This is almost always done by forcing shots he shouldn't take or playing outside of the offense (see game 3 of last years playoffs against the Jazz). Other times he plays hot in the 4th quarter and never looks back. But bottom line, down by 2, final shot, who do you want taking it? Exactly.
 

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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2009, 02:20:34 PM »
But bottom line, down by 2, final shot, who do you want taking it? Exactly.

What do u mean by "taking it"? As in, "who do you want with the ball in his hands"? Kobe can create a shot for himself as well as anyone in the league, but I dont always want the guy with the ball in his hands at the end of the game to be the one always taking the shot.  I want the guy who wont turn it over, wont force a stupid shot, and gets his team the BEST POSSIBLE shot whether its him who takes it...or somebody else.
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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2009, 02:22:41 PM »
LOL@idiots who follow shit like 82games instead of watching games for themselves and making legit judgement...this shit doesnt take into account shit like Kobe not playing most the 4th quarters this year due to every game being a blowout...step it up. according to todays Lakers-Warriors broadcast, Kobe got voted by 80% of the league and 90% of the coaches and gms as the person they'd want to shoot the last shot of the game. the next highest person on the list (probably either wade or lebron) got 3%...3 fucking %...this thread=more proof stats doesn't mean shit.

First, look at the percentage-  Kobe is at the bottom, likely because his shot attempt to pass ratio on game-winners is 51 to 1.  He only shoots .250 in this situation, so that isn't amazing is it.  Of course, great clutch players are remembered for the ones they make, and Kobe has made some big ones.  I agree that stats don't mean everything, but your boy Kobe isn't qutie as amazing in the clutch as his reputation would suggest.
 

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Re: Best clutch player? 82games.com
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2009, 02:28:56 PM »
82games.com uses a very narrow definition of clutch plays. There is more to being a clutch performer then just making the final shot. How about performances in the last 2 minutes? 3 minutes? It can be just as crucial as what leads up to that final play. Then again it is pretty hard to factor in all those variables into sortable stats. As far a Kobe goes, I've felt that over the past couple years, he's fallen a little short of his reputation. This is almost always done by forcing shots he shouldn't take or playing outside of the offense (see game 3 of last years playoffs against the Jazz). Other times he plays hot in the 4th quarter and never looks back. But bottom line, down by 2, final shot, who do you want taking it? Exactly.

WEll, if anyone wants a more accurate depiction of who is really clutch, check this, also fro 82games.com.  And yes, I know stats don't mean everything, and in the case they don't support your boy, they mean nothing, but this is still interesting to b-ball junkies.



Sortable NBA Player "Clutch" Stats
For these stats "Clutch" is defined as:

 4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left, neither team ahead by more than 5 points   


2007-2008 NBA Season Stats
Last update: 4/17/2008
Click on a column header to sort by that stat


 Production per 48 Minutes of Clutch Time
 Team  Plr Gm      Min +/- +/- Fga Fg%     3pA 3p% Fta Ft%    Pts Ast'd Reb Ast T/o Blk Stl
 CLE  James 51  215  141  +31 36.1 .475 12.3 .309 22.5 79% 56.0 23% 9.6 8.2 3.6 2.2 2.9
 LAL  Bryant 39  136  31  +11 33.8 .448 4.6 .385 23.3 84% 51.8 23% 8.1 6.0 4.2 0.7 0.4
 DAL  Nowitzki 40  131  45  +17 30.5 .422 8.8 .333 19.9 87% 46.0 45% 13.6 4.4 1.8 1.8 0.7
 SAS  Ginobili 35  127  49  +18 20.3 .574 9.4 .440 16.9 93% 43.3 38% 7.2 10.5 2.6 0.4 3.0
 CHI  Gordon 31  118  -52  -21 28.2 .377 9.8 .458 18.0 90% 42.0 61% 2.9 2.9 4.1 0.0 1.2
 SEA  Durant 35  135  -15  -5 23.4 .470 5.3 .667 18.4 88% 41.8 61% 5.7 2.8 4.3 2.1 1.8
 MIL  Redd 41  146  -34  -11 26.6 .395 10.8 .273 21.3 83% 41.6 31% 5.9 3.6 3.9 0.0 0.7
 PHO  Nash 40  139  36  +12 21.0 .508 10.3 .533 15.2 88% 40.3 16% 4.8 12.8 6.2 0.0 0.7
 PHO  Stoudemire 36  140  33  +11 22.6 .500 1.0 .000 20.9 81% 39.8 75% 14.4 1.0 2.4 1.0 2.4
 GSW  Jackson 39  140  58  +20 19.5 .474 15.7 .457 16.4 85% 39.7 85% 5.8 2.7 2.4 0.7 0.7
 NOH  Paul 30  131  30  +11 24.5 .478 5.5 .400 15.7 83% 38.8 15% 6.2 10.6 2.6 0.0 2.9

This is for last year, but it shows you that Kobne and Lebron were far and away the best ture "clutch" players last year.   Basically, what this all means is Kobe isn't quite as good as some people think in the clutch, and Lebron is better than people think.

But I agree if I needed one shot to win it, I would still go with Kobe.  But he isn't on a Jordan-like level or anything. 
 

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Re: Best clutch player? 82games.com
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2009, 02:29:37 PM »
But bottom line, down by 2, final shot, who do you want taking it? Exactly.

What do u mean by "taking it"? As in, "who do you want with the ball in his hands"? Kobe can create a shot for himself as well as anyone in the league, but I dont always want the guy with the ball in his hands at the end of the game to be the one always taking the shot.  I want the guy who wont turn it over, wont force a stupid shot, and gets his team the BEST POSSIBLE shot whether its him who takes it...or somebody else.
I mean shooting the ball.
 

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Re: Best clutch player? 82games.com
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2009, 02:38:34 PM »
82games.com uses a very narrow definition of clutch plays. There is more to being a clutch performer then just making the final shot. How about performances in the last 2 minutes? 3 minutes? It can be just as crucial as what leads up to that final play. Then again it is pretty hard to factor in all those variables into sortable stats. As far a Kobe goes, I've felt that over the past couple years, he's fallen a little short of his reputation. This is almost always done by forcing shots he shouldn't take or playing outside of the offense (see game 3 of last years playoffs against the Jazz). Other times he plays hot in the 4th quarter and never looks back. But bottom line, down by 2, final shot, who do you want taking it? Exactly.

WEll, if anyone wants a more accurate depiction of who is really clutch, check this, also fro 82games.com.  And yes, I know stats don't mean everything, and in the case they don't support your boy, they mean nothing, but this is still interesting to b-ball junkies.



Sortable NBA Player "Clutch" Stats
For these stats "Clutch" is defined as:

 4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left, neither team ahead by more than 5 points   


2007-2008 NBA Season Stats
Last update: 4/17/2008
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 Production per 48 Minutes of Clutch Time
 Team  Plr Gm      Min +/- +/- Fga Fg%     3pA 3p% Fta Ft%    Pts Ast'd Reb Ast T/o Blk Stl
 CLE  James 51  215  141  +31 36.1 .475 12.3 .309 22.5 79% 56.0 23% 9.6 8.2 3.6 2.2 2.9
 LAL  Bryant 39  136  31  +11 33.8 .448 4.6 .385 23.3 84% 51.8 23% 8.1 6.0 4.2 0.7 0.4
 DAL  Nowitzki 40  131  45  +17 30.5 .422 8.8 .333 19.9 87% 46.0 45% 13.6 4.4 1.8 1.8 0.7
 SAS  Ginobili 35  127  49  +18 20.3 .574 9.4 .440 16.9 93% 43.3 38% 7.2 10.5 2.6 0.4 3.0
 CHI  Gordon 31  118  -52  -21 28.2 .377 9.8 .458 18.0 90% 42.0 61% 2.9 2.9 4.1 0.0 1.2
 SEA  Durant 35  135  -15  -5 23.4 .470 5.3 .667 18.4 88% 41.8 61% 5.7 2.8 4.3 2.1 1.8
 MIL  Redd 41  146  -34  -11 26.6 .395 10.8 .273 21.3 83% 41.6 31% 5.9 3.6 3.9 0.0 0.7
 PHO  Nash 40  139  36  +12 21.0 .508 10.3 .533 15.2 88% 40.3 16% 4.8 12.8 6.2 0.0 0.7
 PHO  Stoudemire 36  140  33  +11 22.6 .500 1.0 .000 20.9 81% 39.8 75% 14.4 1.0 2.4 1.0 2.4
 GSW  Jackson 39  140  58  +20 19.5 .474 15.7 .457 16.4 85% 39.7 85% 5.8 2.7 2.4 0.7 0.7
 NOH  Paul 30  131  30  +11 24.5 .478 5.5 .400 15.7 83% 38.8 15% 6.2 10.6 2.6 0.0 2.9

This is for last year, but it shows you that Kobne and Lebron were far and away the best ture "clutch" players last year.   Basically, what this all means is Kobe isn't quite as good as some people think in the clutch, and Lebron is better than people think.

But I agree if I needed one shot to win it, I would still go with Kobe.  But he isn't on a Jordan-like level or anything. 


once again though, I think FG% is as important if not more important then actualy points.  If you have a game with 5 minutes left, game is tied. One player goes 4-4, scores 10 points. Another player goes 5-8, scores 12 points. Who is performing better in the clutch?  Assuming neither player is turning the ball over, id take the guy who scored one less point but didnt miss a field goal over the guy who took 8 of his teams shots and only made 5, but scored 2 more points. Chances are the guy who went 4-4 created points for someone else on his team.
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