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--- Quote from: gimmeyourshoes! on April 07, 2009, 08:49:48 AM ---That's some Miss USA talk.

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haha lol

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--- Quote from: virtuoso on April 07, 2009, 08:51:21 AM ---Can I recommend to you that you read George Orwell's 1984?

It answers that question, but you are right, it's not intended to be fought for "good" it's purpose is destruction but you need to read that  ;D

What was the catalyst for your change of thinking?

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sick recommendation good book... i heard the audio recording of it... on cd

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--- Quote from: 'EclipZe on April 10, 2009, 07:40:40 AM ---
--- Quote from: rhodamagnetics on April 10, 2009, 05:46:58 AM ---
--- Quote from: virtuoso on April 07, 2009, 08:51:21 AM ---Can I recommend to you that you read George Orwell's 1984?

It answers that question, but you are right, it's not intended to be fought for "good" it's purpose is destruction but you need to read that  ;D

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Either I never really understood Orwell's point, or I simply disagree.

To me, war seems to be a pretty natural state for all living things (and even the lifeless things are constantly looking for a balance, thus coming to clashes on the way there).
Humans get into wars precisely because they naturally strive for growth. Such growth of one ultimately goes at the cost of the opportunities of others, and the result is a conflict.

There is not much to be done against this, because striving for growth is innate to life, and there's no way to suppress such conflicts because of their size.

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Growth can also be achieved without resolving into violence.

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problem is most people cannot think through to reach that level of wise diplomacy...

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