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Quote from: Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 01:04:26 PMQuote from: smile4menow on April 30, 2009, 01:00:19 PMQuote from: kuruptlon on April 30, 2009, 10:30:10 AMQuote from: smile4menow on April 30, 2009, 10:21:13 AMQuote from: Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 09:26:23 AMQuote from: smile4menow on April 30, 2009, 08:48:18 AMQuote from: Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 08:17:07 AMORDERING DETAILS:$349.99 - The Born Busy Sessions: CD Only$399.99 - The Born Busy Sessions: CD + Bonus DVDsend PayPal payment to: payment@2pacdvds.com____LOL ILL PAY 50 BUCKS EXTRA FOR A DVD OR 349.99 FOR A CD HAHAHAHAHAYou know what the really funny thing about this whole deal is. Aside from their greed to make profit, I will say it looks like it did cost them quite a bit to get the material, I can see trying to get the material and sharing it amongst the people who put out for it. I have no problem with that. I do have a problem with them trying to make a profit, that’s just unreal. However the real funny thing is, lets say these guys hacked in and got everything (which by all accounts they did not) these morons could of avoided any leaks by simply doing what they did before. Invest some time and money into putting together a quality project. Instead they looked to cut more cost and put up download links lmao and then left them up…….. I mean how dumb can they possibly be. They had to know someone was out there looking to make them pay for the way they treat people. I had my run-in’s with Dante in real life and on the net. However, I stopped talking to him when he hooked up with that waste G Clitt. That’s when he started acting better than everyone and being a prick more or less. This is what happens when you act like you are the man and better than everyone Peter!you met dude in real life?Ya its actually a real funny story one day I will spill the beans on who dante really is and how he got his shit! It would take me an hour to do it and I dont have the time right now lmao Let it be known thenHere is a taste lol I used to go to the vigils in Vegas, One year I asked Pete to come, he declined because he was worried someone would beat his ass lmao! This was the vigil that some homo rolled up bumpin first to bomb before a lot of people ever heard it! LOL what the hellnowonder he lives in Iowa nobody wants to go there to beat him upYou dont know the half of it, lol it gets way funnier!
Quote from: smile4menow on April 30, 2009, 01:00:19 PMQuote from: kuruptlon on April 30, 2009, 10:30:10 AMQuote from: smile4menow on April 30, 2009, 10:21:13 AMQuote from: Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 09:26:23 AMQuote from: smile4menow on April 30, 2009, 08:48:18 AMQuote from: Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 08:17:07 AMORDERING DETAILS:$349.99 - The Born Busy Sessions: CD Only$399.99 - The Born Busy Sessions: CD + Bonus DVDsend PayPal payment to: payment@2pacdvds.com____LOL ILL PAY 50 BUCKS EXTRA FOR A DVD OR 349.99 FOR A CD HAHAHAHAHAYou know what the really funny thing about this whole deal is. Aside from their greed to make profit, I will say it looks like it did cost them quite a bit to get the material, I can see trying to get the material and sharing it amongst the people who put out for it. I have no problem with that. I do have a problem with them trying to make a profit, that’s just unreal. However the real funny thing is, lets say these guys hacked in and got everything (which by all accounts they did not) these morons could of avoided any leaks by simply doing what they did before. Invest some time and money into putting together a quality project. Instead they looked to cut more cost and put up download links lmao and then left them up…….. I mean how dumb can they possibly be. They had to know someone was out there looking to make them pay for the way they treat people. I had my run-in’s with Dante in real life and on the net. However, I stopped talking to him when he hooked up with that waste G Clitt. That’s when he started acting better than everyone and being a prick more or less. This is what happens when you act like you are the man and better than everyone Peter!you met dude in real life?Ya its actually a real funny story one day I will spill the beans on who dante really is and how he got his shit! It would take me an hour to do it and I dont have the time right now lmao Let it be known thenHere is a taste lol I used to go to the vigils in Vegas, One year I asked Pete to come, he declined because he was worried someone would beat his ass lmao! This was the vigil that some homo rolled up bumpin first to bomb before a lot of people ever heard it! LOL what the hellnowonder he lives in Iowa nobody wants to go there to beat him up
Quote from: kuruptlon on April 30, 2009, 10:30:10 AMQuote from: smile4menow on April 30, 2009, 10:21:13 AMQuote from: Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 09:26:23 AMQuote from: smile4menow on April 30, 2009, 08:48:18 AMQuote from: Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 08:17:07 AMORDERING DETAILS:$349.99 - The Born Busy Sessions: CD Only$399.99 - The Born Busy Sessions: CD + Bonus DVDsend PayPal payment to: payment@2pacdvds.com____LOL ILL PAY 50 BUCKS EXTRA FOR A DVD OR 349.99 FOR A CD HAHAHAHAHAYou know what the really funny thing about this whole deal is. Aside from their greed to make profit, I will say it looks like it did cost them quite a bit to get the material, I can see trying to get the material and sharing it amongst the people who put out for it. I have no problem with that. I do have a problem with them trying to make a profit, that’s just unreal. However the real funny thing is, lets say these guys hacked in and got everything (which by all accounts they did not) these morons could of avoided any leaks by simply doing what they did before. Invest some time and money into putting together a quality project. Instead they looked to cut more cost and put up download links lmao and then left them up…….. I mean how dumb can they possibly be. They had to know someone was out there looking to make them pay for the way they treat people. I had my run-in’s with Dante in real life and on the net. However, I stopped talking to him when he hooked up with that waste G Clitt. That’s when he started acting better than everyone and being a prick more or less. This is what happens when you act like you are the man and better than everyone Peter!you met dude in real life?Ya its actually a real funny story one day I will spill the beans on who dante really is and how he got his shit! It would take me an hour to do it and I dont have the time right now lmao Let it be known thenHere is a taste lol I used to go to the vigils in Vegas, One year I asked Pete to come, he declined because he was worried someone would beat his ass lmao! This was the vigil that some homo rolled up bumpin first to bomb before a lot of people ever heard it!
Quote from: smile4menow on April 30, 2009, 10:21:13 AMQuote from: Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 09:26:23 AMQuote from: smile4menow on April 30, 2009, 08:48:18 AMQuote from: Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 08:17:07 AMORDERING DETAILS:$349.99 - The Born Busy Sessions: CD Only$399.99 - The Born Busy Sessions: CD + Bonus DVDsend PayPal payment to: payment@2pacdvds.com____LOL ILL PAY 50 BUCKS EXTRA FOR A DVD OR 349.99 FOR A CD HAHAHAHAHAYou know what the really funny thing about this whole deal is. Aside from their greed to make profit, I will say it looks like it did cost them quite a bit to get the material, I can see trying to get the material and sharing it amongst the people who put out for it. I have no problem with that. I do have a problem with them trying to make a profit, that’s just unreal. However the real funny thing is, lets say these guys hacked in and got everything (which by all accounts they did not) these morons could of avoided any leaks by simply doing what they did before. Invest some time and money into putting together a quality project. Instead they looked to cut more cost and put up download links lmao and then left them up…….. I mean how dumb can they possibly be. They had to know someone was out there looking to make them pay for the way they treat people. I had my run-in’s with Dante in real life and on the net. However, I stopped talking to him when he hooked up with that waste G Clitt. That’s when he started acting better than everyone and being a prick more or less. This is what happens when you act like you are the man and better than everyone Peter!you met dude in real life?Ya its actually a real funny story one day I will spill the beans on who dante really is and how he got his shit! It would take me an hour to do it and I dont have the time right now lmao Let it be known then
Quote from: Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 09:26:23 AMQuote from: smile4menow on April 30, 2009, 08:48:18 AMQuote from: Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 08:17:07 AMORDERING DETAILS:$349.99 - The Born Busy Sessions: CD Only$399.99 - The Born Busy Sessions: CD + Bonus DVDsend PayPal payment to: payment@2pacdvds.com____LOL ILL PAY 50 BUCKS EXTRA FOR A DVD OR 349.99 FOR A CD HAHAHAHAHAYou know what the really funny thing about this whole deal is. Aside from their greed to make profit, I will say it looks like it did cost them quite a bit to get the material, I can see trying to get the material and sharing it amongst the people who put out for it. I have no problem with that. I do have a problem with them trying to make a profit, that’s just unreal. However the real funny thing is, lets say these guys hacked in and got everything (which by all accounts they did not) these morons could of avoided any leaks by simply doing what they did before. Invest some time and money into putting together a quality project. Instead they looked to cut more cost and put up download links lmao and then left them up…….. I mean how dumb can they possibly be. They had to know someone was out there looking to make them pay for the way they treat people. I had my run-in’s with Dante in real life and on the net. However, I stopped talking to him when he hooked up with that waste G Clitt. That’s when he started acting better than everyone and being a prick more or less. This is what happens when you act like you are the man and better than everyone Peter!you met dude in real life?Ya its actually a real funny story one day I will spill the beans on who dante really is and how he got his shit! It would take me an hour to do it and I dont have the time right now lmao
Quote from: smile4menow on April 30, 2009, 08:48:18 AMQuote from: Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 08:17:07 AMORDERING DETAILS:$349.99 - The Born Busy Sessions: CD Only$399.99 - The Born Busy Sessions: CD + Bonus DVDsend PayPal payment to: payment@2pacdvds.com____LOL ILL PAY 50 BUCKS EXTRA FOR A DVD OR 349.99 FOR A CD HAHAHAHAHAYou know what the really funny thing about this whole deal is. Aside from their greed to make profit, I will say it looks like it did cost them quite a bit to get the material, I can see trying to get the material and sharing it amongst the people who put out for it. I have no problem with that. I do have a problem with them trying to make a profit, that’s just unreal. However the real funny thing is, lets say these guys hacked in and got everything (which by all accounts they did not) these morons could of avoided any leaks by simply doing what they did before. Invest some time and money into putting together a quality project. Instead they looked to cut more cost and put up download links lmao and then left them up…….. I mean how dumb can they possibly be. They had to know someone was out there looking to make them pay for the way they treat people. I had my run-in’s with Dante in real life and on the net. However, I stopped talking to him when he hooked up with that waste G Clitt. That’s when he started acting better than everyone and being a prick more or less. This is what happens when you act like you are the man and better than everyone Peter!you met dude in real life?
Quote from: Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 08:17:07 AMORDERING DETAILS:$349.99 - The Born Busy Sessions: CD Only$399.99 - The Born Busy Sessions: CD + Bonus DVDsend PayPal payment to: payment@2pacdvds.com____LOL ILL PAY 50 BUCKS EXTRA FOR A DVD OR 349.99 FOR A CD HAHAHAHAHAYou know what the really funny thing about this whole deal is. Aside from their greed to make profit, I will say it looks like it did cost them quite a bit to get the material, I can see trying to get the material and sharing it amongst the people who put out for it. I have no problem with that. I do have a problem with them trying to make a profit, that’s just unreal. However the real funny thing is, lets say these guys hacked in and got everything (which by all accounts they did not) these morons could of avoided any leaks by simply doing what they did before. Invest some time and money into putting together a quality project. Instead they looked to cut more cost and put up download links lmao and then left them up…….. I mean how dumb can they possibly be. They had to know someone was out there looking to make them pay for the way they treat people. I had my run-in’s with Dante in real life and on the net. However, I stopped talking to him when he hooked up with that waste G Clitt. That’s when he started acting better than everyone and being a prick more or less. This is what happens when you act like you are the man and better than everyone Peter!
ORDERING DETAILS:$349.99 - The Born Busy Sessions: CD Only$399.99 - The Born Busy Sessions: CD + Bonus DVDsend PayPal payment to: payment@2pacdvds.com____LOL ILL PAY 50 BUCKS EXTRA FOR A DVD OR 349.99 FOR A CD HAHAHAHAHA
Quote from: smile4menow on April 30, 2009, 01:18:26 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 01:04:26 PMQuote from: smile4menow on April 30, 2009, 01:00:19 PMQuote from: kuruptlon on April 30, 2009, 10:30:10 AMQuote from: smile4menow on April 30, 2009, 10:21:13 AMQuote from: Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 09:26:23 AMQuote from: smile4menow on April 30, 2009, 08:48:18 AMQuote from: Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 08:17:07 AMORDERING DETAILS:$349.99 - The Born Busy Sessions: CD Only$399.99 - The Born Busy Sessions: CD + Bonus DVDsend PayPal payment to: payment@2pacdvds.com____LOL ILL PAY 50 BUCKS EXTRA FOR A DVD OR 349.99 FOR A CD HAHAHAHAHAYou know what the really funny thing about this whole deal is. Aside from their greed to make profit, I will say it looks like it did cost them quite a bit to get the material, I can see trying to get the material and sharing it amongst the people who put out for it. I have no problem with that. I do have a problem with them trying to make a profit, that’s just unreal. However the real funny thing is, lets say these guys hacked in and got everything (which by all accounts they did not) these morons could of avoided any leaks by simply doing what they did before. Invest some time and money into putting together a quality project. Instead they looked to cut more cost and put up download links lmao and then left them up…….. I mean how dumb can they possibly be. They had to know someone was out there looking to make them pay for the way they treat people. I had my run-in’s with Dante in real life and on the net. However, I stopped talking to him when he hooked up with that waste G Clitt. That’s when he started acting better than everyone and being a prick more or less. This is what happens when you act like you are the man and better than everyone Peter!you met dude in real life?Ya its actually a real funny story one day I will spill the beans on who dante really is and how he got his shit! It would take me an hour to do it and I dont have the time right now lmao Let it be known thenHere is a taste lol I used to go to the vigils in Vegas, One year I asked Pete to come, he declined because he was worried someone would beat his ass lmao! This was the vigil that some homo rolled up bumpin first to bomb before a lot of people ever heard it! LOL what the hellnowonder he lives in Iowa nobody wants to go there to beat him upYou dont know the half of it, lol it gets way funnier!i believe i know exactly wat u talkin bout i also have sum stories about him that not many people even know lol....let's just say that he is a walking target.....and his wifey is the biggest hoe in iowa...a homie of mines talked to her on facebook, she wanted to get together wit him. it seems like petey is a 1 minute man from what she told my homie.....
i believe i know exactly wat u talkin bout i also have sum stories about him that not many people even know lol....let's just say that he is a walking target.....and his wifey is the biggest hoe in iowa...a homie of mines talked to her on facebook, she wanted to get together wit him. it seems like petey is a 1 minute man from what she told my homie.....
Quote from: Ridah662 on April 30, 2009, 01:24:18 PMi believe i know exactly wat u talkin bout i also have sum stories about him that not many people even know lol....let's just say that he is a walking target.....and his wifey is the biggest hoe in iowa...a homie of mines talked to her on facebook, she wanted to get together wit him. it seems like petey is a 1 minute man from what she told my homie..... Why the personal attacks? Is this about getting new 2Pac joints or do you have a hard on for those fags?
I don't know man. It looks as though, they at least, got a hold of this one...This will be coming soon from a friend of mine.... The Born Busy Sessions (CD+DVD)Maybe that means they were able to get a hold of other ones as well. I guess only time will tell for sure.
your calling "thought u knew" og a shitty song???
Quote from: Tank2000 on April 30, 2009, 01:39:09 PMQuote from: Ridah662 on April 30, 2009, 01:24:18 PMi believe i know exactly wat u talkin bout i also have sum stories about him that not many people even know lol....let's just say that he is a walking target.....and his wifey is the biggest hoe in iowa...a homie of mines talked to her on facebook, she wanted to get together wit him. it seems like petey is a 1 minute man from what she told my homie..... Why the personal attacks? Is this about getting new 2Pac joints or do you have a hard on for those fags?well they have attacked me & ripped off me once so i believe i have the right to do that & more....no hard on though sorry i aint gay lol
Quote2Pac-Hit 'Em Up (Demo To Retail Draft)2Pac-The Good Die Young (Promotional Version)2Pac-Ambitions of A Ridah (Clip)2Pac-Secretz Of War (Clip I)2Pac-Secretz Of War (Clip II)2Pac-Ghetto Star (Bad Azz Explicit Version)2Pac-First 2 Bomb (Studio Take)2Pac-Um' Dumpin' (Studio Take)2Pac-Let's Fight (Studio Take)2Pac-They Don't Give A Fuck About Us (Studio Take) (Skip Errors)2Pac-Out On Bail (Main Pass)2Pac-If There's A Cure with Snoop Doggy Dogg2Pac-Borrowed TimesRedrum-Deep In The GameAbove The Law-Everywhere I Go (OG)Scrilla-Bitch N***aKurupt-What The Problem Iz with EastwoodCrooked I-It´s Personal with EastwoodLA Nash-West Coast (Fuck Eastsidaz) with Crooked IEastwood-The West with Crooked IDorasel-Death RowCrooked I-Live At Tha RowMichel´le-Piss U OffSam Sneed - Street Scholars (Demo Clips)--01 Intro.mp3--02 Hollywood.mp3--03 Drug Related.mp3--04 The Heist.mp3--05 Lady Heroin.mp3--06 Lookin' For.mp3--07 The Zone.mp3--08 It's So Hot.mp3--09 Street Scholars.mp3--10 Confessions.mp3--11 Lyrical Assassins.mp31.Forever Struggling - Mic Geronimo feat. Fatal-N-Felony (Year 1992)2.Fresh Like Celery (CDQ Original) Fatal-N-Felony feat. Mic Geronimo & Jody Mack3.I Miss My Homies - Fatal-N-Felony feat. Luniz4.Jealousy Wit Envy - Fatal-N-Felony & CMC5.Midnight - Fatal-N-Felony (Original FNF Single)6.Moochers - Fatal-N-Felony feat. Luniz7.Nik Nak 93 - Mic Geronimo, Darcsyde, Fatal-N-Felony & Merc X8.Outlawz INC. - 2Pac feat. Fatal-N-Felony9.Papper Chase - Spice-1 & Fatal-N-Felony10.Represent Da Stuggle - Fatal-N-Felony11.Road To Riches - Fatal-N-Felony12.Shoot Ya On Sight - The Floydz feat. Fatal-N-Felony13.Take Over - Luniz & Fatal-N-Felony14.The Killa Elite - 2Pac feat. Fatal-N-Felony15.Waiting For Warfare - Fatal-N-Felony16.Wartime (Original Full Version) - CMC & Fatal-N-Felonytracks i wanna hear BAD.the rest is known as far as i know.any chance leakin any of dem?
2Pac-Hit 'Em Up (Demo To Retail Draft)2Pac-The Good Die Young (Promotional Version)2Pac-Ambitions of A Ridah (Clip)2Pac-Secretz Of War (Clip I)2Pac-Secretz Of War (Clip II)2Pac-Ghetto Star (Bad Azz Explicit Version)2Pac-First 2 Bomb (Studio Take)2Pac-Um' Dumpin' (Studio Take)2Pac-Let's Fight (Studio Take)2Pac-They Don't Give A Fuck About Us (Studio Take) (Skip Errors)2Pac-Out On Bail (Main Pass)2Pac-If There's A Cure with Snoop Doggy Dogg2Pac-Borrowed TimesRedrum-Deep In The GameAbove The Law-Everywhere I Go (OG)Scrilla-Bitch N***aKurupt-What The Problem Iz with EastwoodCrooked I-It´s Personal with EastwoodLA Nash-West Coast (Fuck Eastsidaz) with Crooked IEastwood-The West with Crooked IDorasel-Death RowCrooked I-Live At Tha RowMichel´le-Piss U OffSam Sneed - Street Scholars (Demo Clips)--01 Intro.mp3--02 Hollywood.mp3--03 Drug Related.mp3--04 The Heist.mp3--05 Lady Heroin.mp3--06 Lookin' For.mp3--07 The Zone.mp3--08 It's So Hot.mp3--09 Street Scholars.mp3--10 Confessions.mp3--11 Lyrical Assassins.mp31.Forever Struggling - Mic Geronimo feat. Fatal-N-Felony (Year 1992)2.Fresh Like Celery (CDQ Original) Fatal-N-Felony feat. Mic Geronimo & Jody Mack3.I Miss My Homies - Fatal-N-Felony feat. Luniz4.Jealousy Wit Envy - Fatal-N-Felony & CMC5.Midnight - Fatal-N-Felony (Original FNF Single)6.Moochers - Fatal-N-Felony feat. Luniz7.Nik Nak 93 - Mic Geronimo, Darcsyde, Fatal-N-Felony & Merc X8.Outlawz INC. - 2Pac feat. Fatal-N-Felony9.Papper Chase - Spice-1 & Fatal-N-Felony10.Represent Da Stuggle - Fatal-N-Felony11.Road To Riches - Fatal-N-Felony12.Shoot Ya On Sight - The Floydz feat. Fatal-N-Felony13.Take Over - Luniz & Fatal-N-Felony14.The Killa Elite - 2Pac feat. Fatal-N-Felony15.Waiting For Warfare - Fatal-N-Felony16.Wartime (Original Full Version) - CMC & Fatal-N-Felony
Quote from: JohnnyL on April 30, 2009, 09:45:52 AMI don't know man. It looks as though, they at least, got a hold of this one...This will be coming soon from a friend of mine.... The Born Busy Sessions (CD+DVD)Maybe that means they were able to get a hold of other ones as well. I guess only time will tell for sure.Doubt it man, that project info leaked almost 2 years ago and not a single track has leaked. Only one track is out there and that track was out there BEFORE the BB project was released.Quote from: JohnnyL on April 30, 2009, 09:45:52 AMyour calling "thought u knew" og a shitty song???What song is that? Link me, unless you mean Thugz Get Lonely Too, in which case I'll reply with a huge ROFL
Quote from: Tank2000 on April 30, 2009, 01:51:06 PMQuote from: JohnnyL on April 30, 2009, 09:45:52 AMI don't know man. It looks as though, they at least, got a hold of this one...This will be coming soon from a friend of mine.... The Born Busy Sessions (CD+DVD)Maybe that means they were able to get a hold of other ones as well. I guess only time will tell for sure.Doubt it man, that project info leaked almost 2 years ago and not a single track has leaked. Only one track is out there and that track was out there BEFORE the BB project was released.Quote from: JohnnyL on April 30, 2009, 09:45:52 AMyour calling "thought u knew" og a shitty song???What song is that? Link me, unless you mean Thugz Get Lonely Too, in which case I'll reply with a huge ROFLYou might be right, but it sounded like a homie of Mike Toreno's is supposed to to up this project soon, unless I misunderstood. Of course, we'll have to wait and see if it happens, but that's what I took from the post. As far as other projects, I'm as skeptical as the next person. But there could be several reasons for them not putting up full projects on here. I might be something other than them not having them. I'm not saying that for sure, because maybe they don't have them. But we'll just have to see.
to be up front with you all, i also tried to get the money back through a paypal complaint. ultimately i stated that the tape arrived blank and useless. paypal agreed to refund $250 of my $508 only if i 1) returned the tape to the seller and 2) the seller approved. well i did return *a* tape to the seller - i scanned the label on the tape and printed off a replica, then used magic marker to trace his writing. therefore it seems he has the tape but we have the original and only copy. therefore do not be alarmed when the tape goes back up on ebay... it will be blank. unfortunately despite my efforts paypal decided that what was delivered was as stated in the auction and despite my proof of a return, the refund is on the the seller's prerogative. i am still battling this out, but as expected with paypal i cannot see this amounting to anything. if we do in fact get some money back (we won't) i will apply that amount to the cost of hosting this site instead of trying to refund a couple dollars here and there. the site is costly for g (especially) and i to run, so it seems fair.
yeah don't where that tracklist for FATAL N FELONY came from but it ain't a dante project as its not in the levels
Quote from: JohnnyL on April 30, 2009, 09:45:52 AMYou might be right, but it sounded like a homie of Mike Toreno's is supposed to to up this project soon, unless I misunderstood. Of course, we'll have to wait and see if it happens, but that's what I took from the post. As far as other projects, I'm as skeptical as the next person. But there could be several reasons for them not putting up full projects on here. I might be something other than them not having them. I'm not saying that for sure, because maybe they don't have them. But we'll just have to see.I ain't upping it, but I heard some dudes were selling it who paid for it for way cheaper. We'll see how it goes.
You might be right, but it sounded like a homie of Mike Toreno's is supposed to to up this project soon, unless I misunderstood. Of course, we'll have to wait and see if it happens, but that's what I took from the post. As far as other projects, I'm as skeptical as the next person. But there could be several reasons for them not putting up full projects on here. I might be something other than them not having them. I'm not saying that for sure, because maybe they don't have them. But we'll just have to see.