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I guess i don't understand the extreme hate for these people. As you can tell by the leaked forum posts, they are putting in work by going to Sam Sneed and Big D and Nuttso and other people and prying the songs from them and paying them a lot to get them. With the songs in Amaru's hands, they'll never see the light of day.The way I looked at it, I thought it was good to have these guys around selling their projects to people, because i knew full well one day they'd all leak, and we'd get them eventually. The more people who had them, the bigger the chance of a leak. I know this ain't a popular viewpoint, but let's face it, if it wasn't for Dante and these guys, "Immortal" would probably still be sitting in Sam Sneed's storage somewhere and probably would have never been heard. Amaru wasn't ever going to release it, not in OG anyway, so at least they put it some work to get that song out there. And they are taking extreme legal risks by doing this, as now they got busted. I know i'd never try it. I'm kind of indifferent towards these people, if they want to go through all the trouble and do this stuff for new 2pac stuff, then so be it. I never bought it, never would, but if some people want to, that's cool too.Same with the Crooked I project. People should have just kept their mouths shut, paid up if they wanted it, if not, moved on. The more people that would have got that Crooked I album, the better chance it would have had of leaking. Instead of 20 or 30 people having it, we're back to 2 or 3 people having it, a lot less of a chance it's going to leak that way. If many people had it, all it would take is for one of them to get mad at the other and then 'leak' it as retaliation, which as we've seen, has happened quite a bit over the years.
Deon Evans (BIG D) early tupac producer - he sold out to dante with a load of tracks and they put it out as project
Quote from: EFFeX on April 29, 2009, 09:03:22 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on April 29, 2009, 08:45:27 AMQuote from: EFFeX on April 29, 2009, 08:37:11 AMThat Too Gangsta 4 Radio looks sick... For real. Did you notice all those Crooked I track names on there? There are some Crooked I tracks on there that I've never heard of. Possibly some stuff from "Untouchable," ?I believe "Live At The Row" and "Who Wants To Fuck (OG)" were meant for one of the versions of Say Hi To The Bad Guy...I've never even heard of "It's Personal", "Catchin' Feelings", but I have heard of "West Coast", but it was called "West Coast '95"... Same track, not sure?You're right. "Live at the Row" was listed on the tracklist for Los Skanless's version of "Say Hi to the Bad Guy." And "Who Wants to Fuck (OG)" was almost certainly the same as the one that DeathrowsFinest leaked on here. But the others, I've never heard of. It's possible they're just the same tracks as the ones on the unreleased bootleg "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" projects, but with different names. But more than likely, I bet they're other tracks either recorded during the "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" sessions or the "Untouchable" sessions. JMO.
Quote from: JohnnyL on April 29, 2009, 08:45:27 AMQuote from: EFFeX on April 29, 2009, 08:37:11 AMThat Too Gangsta 4 Radio looks sick... For real. Did you notice all those Crooked I track names on there? There are some Crooked I tracks on there that I've never heard of. Possibly some stuff from "Untouchable," ?I believe "Live At The Row" and "Who Wants To Fuck (OG)" were meant for one of the versions of Say Hi To The Bad Guy...I've never even heard of "It's Personal", "Catchin' Feelings", but I have heard of "West Coast", but it was called "West Coast '95"... Same track, not sure?
Quote from: EFFeX on April 29, 2009, 08:37:11 AMThat Too Gangsta 4 Radio looks sick... For real. Did you notice all those Crooked I track names on there? There are some Crooked I tracks on there that I've never heard of. Possibly some stuff from "Untouchable," ?
That Too Gangsta 4 Radio looks sick...
Quote from: JohnnyL on April 29, 2009, 09:31:10 AMQuote from: EFFeX on April 29, 2009, 09:03:22 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on April 29, 2009, 08:45:27 AMQuote from: EFFeX on April 29, 2009, 08:37:11 AMThat Too Gangsta 4 Radio looks sick... For real. Did you notice all those Crooked I track names on there? There are some Crooked I tracks on there that I've never heard of. Possibly some stuff from "Untouchable," ?I believe "Live At The Row" and "Who Wants To Fuck (OG)" were meant for one of the versions of Say Hi To The Bad Guy...I've never even heard of "It's Personal", "Catchin' Feelings", but I have heard of "West Coast", but it was called "West Coast '95"... Same track, not sure?You're right. "Live at the Row" was listed on the tracklist for Los Skanless's version of "Say Hi to the Bad Guy." And "Who Wants to Fuck (OG)" was almost certainly the same as the one that DeathrowsFinest leaked on here. But the others, I've never heard of. It's possible they're just the same tracks as the ones on the unreleased bootleg "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" projects, but with different names. But more than likely, I bet they're other tracks either recorded during the "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" sessions or the "Untouchable" sessions. JMO.It'd be nice to have everything and just burn your own copy of SHTTBG with your favorite tracks...
Quote from: Soopafly DPGC on April 29, 2009, 08:55:26 AMI guess i don't understand the extreme hate for these people. As you can tell by the leaked forum posts, they are putting in work by going to Sam Sneed and Big D and Nuttso and other people and prying the songs from them and paying them a lot to get them. With the songs in Amaru's hands, they'll never see the light of day.The way I looked at it, I thought it was good to have these guys around selling their projects to people, because i knew full well one day they'd all leak, and we'd get them eventually. The more people who had them, the bigger the chance of a leak. I know this ain't a popular viewpoint, but let's face it, if it wasn't for Dante and these guys, "Immortal" would probably still be sitting in Sam Sneed's storage somewhere and probably would have never been heard. Amaru wasn't ever going to release it, not in OG anyway, so at least they put it some work to get that song out there. And they are taking extreme legal risks by doing this, as now they got busted. I know i'd never try it. I'm kind of indifferent towards these people, if they want to go through all the trouble and do this stuff for new 2pac stuff, then so be it. I never bought it, never would, but if some people want to, that's cool too.Same with the Crooked I project. People should have just kept their mouths shut, paid up if they wanted it, if not, moved on. The more people that would have got that Crooked I album, the better chance it would have had of leaking. Instead of 20 or 30 people having it, we're back to 2 or 3 people having it, a lot less of a chance it's going to leak that way. If many people had it, all it would take is for one of them to get mad at the other and then 'leak' it as retaliation, which as we've seen, has happened quite a bit over the years. I understand what you're saying. But at the same time, nothing had leaked since "Paper and Pen." It seems as though Dante's level system had worked well enough that hardly anyone was even aware that these tracks they had obtained were even in their hands. And being that most of this stuff was only being traded back and forth to a handful of people, it's unlikely that it would have leaked. At least, not for a very long time. Personally, I don't really have anything against bootlegging, per se. It's more the secrecy and misdirection. Plus, it's pretty shading to sell downgraded versions of some tracks to certain people, and then sell the "real" versions of the tracks to others, for the same price. Maybe they felt this level of secrecy was necessary to avoid leaks. But I think at the amount they were charging and the limited number of people that had access to actually buy it, this operation would have eventually imploded anyway. Not to mention the bazillion copywrite laws flagrantly being broken.
Quote from: EFFeX on April 29, 2009, 10:02:42 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on April 29, 2009, 09:31:10 AMQuote from: EFFeX on April 29, 2009, 09:03:22 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on April 29, 2009, 08:45:27 AMQuote from: EFFeX on April 29, 2009, 08:37:11 AMThat Too Gangsta 4 Radio looks sick... For real. Did you notice all those Crooked I track names on there? There are some Crooked I tracks on there that I've never heard of. Possibly some stuff from "Untouchable," ?I believe "Live At The Row" and "Who Wants To Fuck (OG)" were meant for one of the versions of Say Hi To The Bad Guy...I've never even heard of "It's Personal", "Catchin' Feelings", but I have heard of "West Coast", but it was called "West Coast '95"... Same track, not sure?You're right. "Live at the Row" was listed on the tracklist for Los Skanless's version of "Say Hi to the Bad Guy." And "Who Wants to Fuck (OG)" was almost certainly the same as the one that DeathrowsFinest leaked on here. But the others, I've never heard of. It's possible they're just the same tracks as the ones on the unreleased bootleg "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" projects, but with different names. But more than likely, I bet they're other tracks either recorded during the "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" sessions or the "Untouchable" sessions. JMO.It'd be nice to have everything and just burn your own copy of SHTTBG with your favorite tracks...Yeah. Still haven't seen any tracks listed with Scarface or Jadakiss. And wasn't there supposed to be a second track with Ja Rule as well?
Waits patiently for Mikes thread
Quote from: davidr on April 29, 2009, 10:37:56 AMWaits patiently for Mikes thread whats that gonna be about?
Quote from: kuruptlon on April 29, 2009, 10:40:19 AMQuote from: davidr on April 29, 2009, 10:37:56 AMWaits patiently for Mikes thread whats that gonna be about?he's going to reveal everything in detail and expose these bootleggers
Quote from: davidr on April 29, 2009, 10:43:24 AMQuote from: kuruptlon on April 29, 2009, 10:40:19 AMQuote from: davidr on April 29, 2009, 10:37:56 AMWaits patiently for Mikes thread whats that gonna be about?he's going to reveal everything in detail and expose these bootleggers kilo is taking credit for something he had nothing to do with.....