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Terminator Salvation
mikeOG:
the terminator theme song isnt in it? wtf :( watching the trailer with the theme song had me pumped up about this movie
why couldnt they just add that to it? did it hurt them in any way or form. fuck
R1ZE:
the dun dun dun dun dun is in it but the actual doo doo doooooooooo isnt
Shallow:
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--- Quote from: R1ZE on May 21, 2009, 05:14:15 AM ---might wanna spoiler tag that somehow, its a great moment for people that dont know about it.
T2 >> TS >>> T1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> T3 (piece of shit)
this movie isn't like T2 in that it has appeal in the sense of drama/emotional depth, but its fun as fuck. Siskel used to say a good movie has 3 good scenes and no bad ones. Well, this has atleast 5 great ones and my complaints are minimal. Go see this shit!
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Haven't seen TS, but T1>>>>>>>>>>>T2 any day of the week for me. And every year tat goes by I add another > because T2 starts to look more dated. What I mean is that at first T2 looked so much better than T1 in terms of production that it was erasy to think of T1 as inferior, but as time passes and they both start looking dated, T1 still has it's coolness factor, amazing concept, and great themes. T2 just reuses the same concept and theme and in a less effective way.
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Disagree strongly.
Especially since it added so much more. "No fate" really comes into its own in that movie with them taking destiny into their own hands. And the whole terminator as a father figure, and questions of man vs machine dont even exist in the original. In T1 the terminator's just a plot device, nothing more.
Add to that the fact that T2 isn't dated at all. The CGI T-1000 still looks great today and everything else was practical effects. Easily the best action of any movie and the end's emotional note doesn't seem forced or corny.. unlike the hokey love story between reese and sarah in T1. Plus the stop motion is ridiculous in 2009.
T2 did everything T1 did better, and then did a bunch of other shit too. That's why its classic.
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They never take destiny into their own hands. The whole point of the series is that no matter how much you try and avoid Judgment Day it's still coming and no matter how you already know about the future your destiny is set out for you. The only thing T2 did for me was ask stupid questions like if they had T100 the whole time why just not send him back to the first movie setting the first time and kill Sarah then?
Remember in the first one it was explained that the Machines had been defeated and the last ditch effort before beiong completely taken over was to send a terminater back to the past and kill John Connor before he had a chance to lead the rebellion. So John sent back Reese to stop them, and in turn start everything because John knows that whole time that Resse is his father and needs to send him back in order to be born. It's the whole space time continuum thing.
T2 just turned the whole thing into a pop corn flick. T1 was a cult classic. Sure the love story was paint by numbers, but don't think the surrogate father thing wasn't too. Got kind of sappy at the end too. It's not a complete joke of a film or anything, but if both were made under at the same time T1 would be a clear winner. T1 was made with Cameron's muse in mind. T2 was made with Cameron's wallet in mind.
R1ZE:
--- Quote from: Shallow on May 22, 2009, 08:22:41 AM ---
--- Quote from: R1ZE on May 21, 2009, 08:31:51 AM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on May 21, 2009, 07:56:46 AM ---
--- Quote from: R1ZE on May 21, 2009, 05:14:15 AM ---might wanna spoiler tag that somehow, its a great moment for people that dont know about it.
T2 >> TS >>> T1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> T3 (piece of shit)
this movie isn't like T2 in that it has appeal in the sense of drama/emotional depth, but its fun as fuck. Siskel used to say a good movie has 3 good scenes and no bad ones. Well, this has atleast 5 great ones and my complaints are minimal. Go see this shit!
--- End quote ---
Haven't seen TS, but T1>>>>>>>>>>>T2 any day of the week for me. And every year tat goes by I add another > because T2 starts to look more dated. What I mean is that at first T2 looked so much better than T1 in terms of production that it was erasy to think of T1 as inferior, but as time passes and they both start looking dated, T1 still has it's coolness factor, amazing concept, and great themes. T2 just reuses the same concept and theme and in a less effective way.
--- End quote ---
Disagree strongly.
Especially since it added so much more. "No fate" really comes into its own in that movie with them taking destiny into their own hands. And the whole terminator as a father figure, and questions of man vs machine dont even exist in the original. In T1 the terminator's just a plot device, nothing more.
Add to that the fact that T2 isn't dated at all. The CGI T-1000 still looks great today and everything else was practical effects. Easily the best action of any movie and the end's emotional note doesn't seem forced or corny.. unlike the hokey love story between reese and sarah in T1. Plus the stop motion is ridiculous in 2009.
T2 did everything T1 did better, and then did a bunch of other shit too. That's why its classic.
--- End quote ---
They never take destiny into their own hands. The whole point of the series is that no matter how much you try and avoid Judgment Day it's still coming and no matter how you already know about the future your destiny is set out for you. The only thing T2 did for me was ask stupid questions like if they had T100 the whole time why just not send him back to the first movie setting the first time and kill Sarah then?
Remember in the first one it was explained that the Machines had been defeated and the last ditch effort before beiong completely taken over was to send a terminater back to the past and kill John Connor before he had a chance to lead the rebellion. So John sent back Reese to stop them, and in turn start everything because John knows that whole time that Resse is his father and needs to send him back in order to be born. It's the whole space time continuum thing.
T2 just turned the whole thing into a pop corn flick. T1 was a cult classic. Sure the love story was paint by numbers, but don't think the surrogate father thing wasn't too. Got kind of sappy at the end too. It's not a complete joke of a film or anything, but if both were made under at the same time T1 would be a clear winner. T1 was made with Cameron's muse in mind. T2 was made with Cameron's wallet in mind.
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T2 has more heart.
I respect your opinion though, I know some people feel this way but I'll never understand it. Have you seen T4 yet?
eS El Duque:
this movie sucked
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