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Is this u or is this your kid?
ToNe1904:
--- Quote from: Overseer on October 16, 2002, 04:12:04 AM ---Wouldn't just be easier to outlaw guns? like in the rest of the civilised world.
(yes they still exist, but they pose nowhere near as big a problem)
seems to me....
1) criminals use guns because they're easy to get hold of
2) people want guns to protect them from the criminals (right to bear arms)
Get rid of '1' people dont need '2', just a baseball bat :)
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not always so easy to just completely change something thats been in tha constitution for so long. Not to mention, anyone who lives in America knows...outlawing something, does nothing to stop it from existing. Drugs are illegal, they are EVERYwhere. In SD...they sell drugz in front of tha county jail lol. Not to mention, remember...this IS america. And as long as politicians are controlled by lobbyists...there will never be a ban on gunz, ciggarettes, liquor...or any such thingz. They arent concerned with lives, theyre concerned with money...
ChildOfMuthaNature:
i feel u on that seer... i don't own a gun and feel no need for one even though i've been held at gun point before in a home invasion. :-\
Don Seer:
Its not just america thats like that, the rest of the world is too... criminals here use guns too.. but only the hardcore because the shits not readily available.
Drugs are avalilable here too, but we dont have much crack or crystal meth yet, they are here... the rest have been here since forever. remember where extasy came from... germany... who popularised it? the english.
Here's another angle for you....
Who cares if criminals use guns? eventually the criminal class will just wipe itself out right? what areas have the most gun related crimes? and murders? bet they're not affluent neighborhoods? its a way of self policing... or oppressing the poor.... if they try to 'come up' through crime they have to expose themselves to possibily getting murdered or incarcerated... its uncle sam's curse ;) (yeah i listen to the album twice a week.. lol)
damn held up... scary shit!
ToNe1904:
--- Quote from: Overseer on October 16, 2002, 04:33:07 AM ---Its not just america thats like that, the rest of the world is too... criminals here use guns too.. but only the hardcore because the shits not readily available.
Drugs are avalilable here too, but we dont have much crack or crystal meth yet, they are here... the rest have been here since forever. remember where extasy came from... germany... who popularised it? the english.
Here's another angle for you....
Who cares if criminals use guns? eventually the criminal class will just wipe itself out right? what areas have the most gun related crimes? and murders? bet they're not affluent neighborhoods? its a way of self policing... or oppressing the poor.... if they try to 'come up' through crime they have to expose themselves to possibily getting murdered or incarcerated... its uncle sam's curse ;) (yeah i listen to the album twice a week.. lol)
damn held up... scary shit!
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i know its not just america with gun problems, but i live in America...n i thought u were reffering to us with the "right to bear arms" statement.
As for yur other angle, thats not even takin a proactive aproach to it. I mean, let tha criminals kill themselves?? I dont know how England is structured, but here...the poor neighborhoodz (for tha most part) are mainly minority neighborhoodz. People who have been dealt a certain hand, mostly because of our own governments past racist acts. Now, MOST of the people in the poor neighborhoodz are NOT criminals...they are simply trying to make it out of the ghetto. So, rather then the government taking action to get rid of guns on the streets...they should jus allow all tha innocent poor people to suffer through more danger...by allowing criminals to kill themselvez...and others in the process? I am a very big believer in tha idea that...crime doesnt bring poverty, but poverty does bring crime. People in desperate situations do desperate things. If sum 8 yr old white kid from tha suburb, finds his dads gun in tha closet..and accidentally shootz his friend when playing with it...itz top story on the evening news. However, if an 8 yr old black, hispanic...or whatever minority u pick...gets shot because they were an innocent bystander in a park somewhere...nobody gives a shit. I know im strayin off subject here, but real shit...i dont give a fuk about tha .01% of kidz in tha suburbz who HAPPEN to stumble across theyre parents gun...u know what, thats their parents fault! i feel sorry for tha kid...but shit happens. Im tired of tha bullshit. In tha hood, kidz are exposed tah gunz right off tha bat...how bout we try n stop THAT shit?! Yes people gotta take responsibility...but the example of tha parents gun in tha closet, shows that. The government also needs to take responsibility, and tha amount of gun stores in the inner-cities...shows that. The government basically pushed minoritiez into poor, low-income neighborhoodz, then...thru the CIA pumped tha neighborhoodz full of crack and gunz...n then said...ok...pick yurself up! lol wtf...anywayz...im way off topic now...so fukit...lol
ChildOfMuthaNature:
--- Quote from: Overseer on October 16, 2002, 04:33:07 AM ---Its not just america thats like that, the rest of the world is too... criminals here use guns too.. but only the hardcore because the shits not readily available.
Drugs are avalilable here too, but we dont have much crack or crystal meth yet, they are here... the rest have been here since forever. remember where extasy came from... germany... who popularised it? the english.
Here's another angle for you....
Who cares if criminals use guns? eventually the criminal class will just wipe itself out right? what areas have the most gun related crimes? and murders? bet they're not affluent neighborhoods? its a way of self policing... or oppressing the poor.... if they try to 'come up' through crime they have to expose themselves to possibily getting murdered or incarcerated... its uncle sam's curse ;) (yeah i listen to the album twice a week.. lol)
damn held up... scary shit!
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^that is kinda sad the way u see it man^
let them wipe themseleves out come on man that is a lil to simple...
it's like tone said
--- Quote ---suburb kidz stumble across or maybe even find their parents gunz in tha closet. Kidz in tha inner-city, get exposed to tha shit off tha bat...very hard for parents to keep gunz away frum they kidz...when gunz are all ova tha neighborhood. Fuked up situation...
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it not really the suburban kid that need the most looking out for cuz for the most part that is been delt with and being exposed on the news....for an inner city kid that has to see crazy gun shit go down every day they mostly should be ingnored and to where a gun get into their hands for whatever reason-- negligents mainly, to grow up thinking they have to have a gun and they have to use a gun to get what they want....their is no reason i could say just leave them to wipe them selves out when they can be taught better :-\
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