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Any of ya'll ready to retract your ridiculous "LeBron>Kobe" claims yet?
"THE" MoSav:
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--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 10, 2009, 04:29:49 PM ---
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--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 09, 2009, 09:27:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on June 09, 2009, 04:26:33 PM --- For every 1 person in the world that doesn't know Michael Jackson there's probably 100 that don't know Kobe.
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and then you say you're not pushin it? LOL
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Huh? I don't get it. Are you agreeing with me or are you saying Kobe is just as big as Michael Jackson? Because if it's the latter then I might as well say Kobe is bigger than Jesus because that may be the only one you won't argue with. If you do indded think the name Kobe is as popular as Jesus then please tell me because knowing that would save me a lot of time never entering a discussion with you again.
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Kobe is not as big as Michael Jackson, no doubt...but if you're tryna claim the Michael Jackson, in this day and age, is 100 times bigger, then that's just absurd.
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Prime for prime I mean. Kobe is at his peak right about now. In 1983/84 MJ was at least 100 times bigger than Kobe is now.
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yeah u cant compare a MUSICIAN "the King of pop" who EVERYONE KNEW to Kobe Bryant the NBA's best player. Everybody knows music and Michael Jackson Not everyone knows kobe, unfair comparison
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 11, 2009, 07:54:04 AM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on June 10, 2009, 08:13:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 10, 2009, 04:29:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on June 10, 2009, 06:54:48 AM ---
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 09, 2009, 09:27:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on June 09, 2009, 04:26:33 PM --- For every 1 person in the world that doesn't know Michael Jackson there's probably 100 that don't know Kobe.
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and then you say you're not pushin it? LOL
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Huh? I don't get it. Are you agreeing with me or are you saying Kobe is just as big as Michael Jackson? Because if it's the latter then I might as well say Kobe is bigger than Jesus because that may be the only one you won't argue with. If you do indded think the name Kobe is as popular as Jesus then please tell me because knowing that would save me a lot of time never entering a discussion with you again.
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Kobe is not as big as Michael Jackson, no doubt...but if you're tryna claim the Michael Jackson, in this day and age, is 100 times bigger, then that's just absurd.
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Prime for prime I mean. Kobe is at his peak right about now. In 1983/84 MJ was at least 100 times bigger than Kobe is now.
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alright...that sounds a lot more reasonable. LOL. but in all honesty, Kobe is as big a name as there is in American sports today, and that's with very little backing...PeACe
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I can agree with that, but Sports in general is at a time when they're really aren't those big personailties and big names. In the late 80s and early 90s Jordan, Gretzky, and Bo Jackson were so big it warranted a cartoon about them as super heroes. You could never pitch a cartoon starring Kobe, Crosby, LaDanian or whoever to any network and expect a green light.
MoSav - I'm trying to say that Kobe isn't as big as Michael Jackson was therefore...
MJ was only brought up in an example to show that there are many people in the US that don't know who Kobe Bryant is. Who the fuck has never heard of Michael Jackson? Believe it or not there are people that haven't. So if there are people that have never heard of MJ then how many do you think have never heard of Kobe who isn't even in the same stratosphere?
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: Shallow on June 11, 2009, 03:57:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 11, 2009, 07:54:04 AM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on June 10, 2009, 08:13:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 10, 2009, 04:29:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on June 10, 2009, 06:54:48 AM ---
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 09, 2009, 09:27:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on June 09, 2009, 04:26:33 PM --- For every 1 person in the world that doesn't know Michael Jackson there's probably 100 that don't know Kobe.
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and then you say you're not pushin it? LOL
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Huh? I don't get it. Are you agreeing with me or are you saying Kobe is just as big as Michael Jackson? Because if it's the latter then I might as well say Kobe is bigger than Jesus because that may be the only one you won't argue with. If you do indded think the name Kobe is as popular as Jesus then please tell me because knowing that would save me a lot of time never entering a discussion with you again.
--- End quote ---
Kobe is not as big as Michael Jackson, no doubt...but if you're tryna claim the Michael Jackson, in this day and age, is 100 times bigger, then that's just absurd.
--- End quote ---
Prime for prime I mean. Kobe is at his peak right about now. In 1983/84 MJ was at least 100 times bigger than Kobe is now.
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alright...that sounds a lot more reasonable. LOL. but in all honesty, Kobe is as big a name as there is in American sports today, and that's with very little backing...PeACe
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I can agree with that, but Sports in general is at a time when they're really aren't those big personailties and big names. In the late 80s and early 90s Jordan, Gretzky, and Bo Jackson were so big it warranted a cartoon about them as super heroes. You could never pitch a cartoon starring Kobe, Crosby, LaDanian or whoever to any network and expect a green light.
MoSav - I'm trying to say that Kobe isn't as big as Michael Jackson was therefore...
MJ was only brought up in an example to show that there are many people in the US that don't know who Kobe Bryant is. Who the fuck has never heard of Michael Jackson? Believe it or not there are people that haven't. So if there are people that have never heard of MJ then how many do you think have never heard of Kobe who isn't even in the same stratosphere?
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I get what you're saying, but I still dont think Jordan had anything Kobe doesn't...I say it's just the way he was marketed, the way a majority of the marketing was focused on him, largely due to the fact that he came in when marketing in sports was so raw...it has a lot to do with it, you must at least be able to admit that...PeACe
Shallow:
Obviously I believe that if Jordan was marketed like Kobe is now he'd have not been as big as the Jordan of the late 80s and 90s.But the one thing we have to simply disagree on is if Kobe had the same push and was there instead of Jordan in the late 80s and 90s he would not have been as big as Jordan was.
Plenty of people get huge pushes by the media and plenty of people are the best in their sport or field, but only a few ever get the mega stardom that guys like Babe Ruth get. That's my point that you'll just have to not believe.
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: Shallow on June 12, 2009, 07:42:27 AM ---Obviously I believe that if Jordan was marketed like Kobe is now he'd have not been as big as the Jordan of the late 80s and 90s.But the one thing we have to simply disagree on is if Kobe had the same push and was there instead of Jordan in the late 80s and 90s he would not have been as big as Jordan was.
Plenty of people get huge pushes by the media and plenty of people are the best in their sport or field, but only a few ever get the mega stardom that guys like Babe Ruth get. That's my point that you'll just have to not believe.
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and the truth is that there's no way to really know...i still dont see the "charm" that separates Jordan from Kobe. to me, they're both similar dudes, with a similar game, and similar personalities...but theres no way to truly know what could have been.. it's all a matter of opinion...PeACe
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