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Question for religious people II
Triple OG Rapsodie:
--- Quote from: Shallow on June 06, 2009, 09:19:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 06, 2009, 05:14:15 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on June 06, 2009, 05:06:17 PM ---You could argue, from a Christian standpoint, that the good man not part of the group does get in just fine. Christ said that he came for the sinners not the righteous and that yoiu send a doctor to heal the sick, not the healthy. This means that the sick become healthy through Christ, but the already healthy are just fine the way they are. Thus, they get in anyway.
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That sounds good, but thats not the way its taught and thats not what Christians believe.
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That's what I believe.
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I find it funny how a lot of people call themselves Christians and Catholics and go to church but yet they disagree on what is taught by the heads of their religion. My mom being an example. She's a Catholic but she supports gay marriage and the right to abortion when the Catholic Church is against it. She also doesn't believe in the concept of Hell. I know that a lot of people are in the same situation, yet they still call themselves Christians. Why don't these people just go ahead and call themselves agnostic? Why do they insist on claiming membership of a group who's beliefs aren't in sync with their own?
The Overfiend:
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IMO people like that have a much more healthier approach to religion by not taking it so seriously as to feel the need to compulsively align themselves with a religious label that embodies their political views: it is an acknowledgement that the political stance of the religious organization is peripheral to the deeper understanding the organization claims to uphold and the personal belief and understanding that the individual encapsulates in the symbolism of the organization...
....I once went to mass and sat next to a Sikh, and being young and inquistive I asked why he was here and he gave a reply as to the effect of 'its all the same'. That shit blew my mind open. BOOM! Epiphany.
Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, Look, the Kingdom
is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you.
If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather,
the Kingdom is inside you and outside you.
When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will understand that you are
children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you
live in poverty...
-Saying 3, The Secret Book of Judas Thomas the Twin.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: rapsodie on June 06, 2009, 09:48:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on June 06, 2009, 09:19:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 06, 2009, 05:14:15 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on June 06, 2009, 05:06:17 PM ---You could argue, from a Christian standpoint, that the good man not part of the group does get in just fine. Christ said that he came for the sinners not the righteous and that yoiu send a doctor to heal the sick, not the healthy. This means that the sick become healthy through Christ, but the already healthy are just fine the way they are. Thus, they get in anyway.
--- End quote ---
That sounds good, but thats not the way its taught and thats not what Christians believe.
--- End quote ---
That's what I believe.
--- End quote ---
I find it funny how a lot of people call themselves Christians and Catholics and go to church but yet they disagree on what is taught by the heads of their religion. My mom being an example. She's a Catholic but she supports gay marriage and the right to abortion when the Catholic Church is against it. She also doesn't believe in the concept of Hell. I know that a lot of people are in the same situation, yet they still call themselves Christians. Why don't these people just go ahead and call themselves agnostic? Why do they insist on claiming membership of a group who's beliefs aren't in sync with their own?
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The head of my Church is Jesus and I believe in what he had to say. That takes precidence over anything any high priest, pope or patriarch has to say as far as I'm concerned. So I'd never call myself agnostic.
Don't know what your mother's reasons are but politically I don't want a ban on abortion because all it would do is drive it underground. Until we have an alternative to it, (like ectogenesis), it has to stay. I am also a strong believer in the complete separation of Church and State. So absolutely disagree with Gay marriage being made legal or a State issue. Much like I am against straight marriage in the same regard.
Sikoticâ„¢:
If heaven was really that great and people were so sure it existed, they would kill themselves. Of course, they don;t because they doubt their belief in a heaven.
Sofa_King_Awesome:
--- Quote from: rapsodie on June 06, 2009, 09:48:19 PM ---I find it funny how a lot of people call themselves Christians and Catholics
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Catholics are Christians u dumb fuck. Suck dick & lol @ u trying to kick knowledge. Anything u said is null and voided, u dummy
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