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Pedro Martinez vs Randy Johnson

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herpes:

--- Quote from: Lefty Gomez on June 07, 2009, 08:24:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teflon Tom on June 07, 2009, 08:07:52 PM ---I take Pedro any day of the week over RJ.  He had a better ERA and is 2nd all time in adjusted ERA.  He has a better career win percentage which is 7th all time.  The best WHIP in the monder era by a starter.  Per 9 RJ only averaged half a K more than Pedro.   He had the two greatest seasons by a pitcher in 99 and 2000 during the steroid era while pitching in the AL and in a hitters park.  From 1997-03 is unmatched.  RJ has longevity on his side.

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pitching 50+ more innings a year = a slightly higher ERa


i can live with that knowing my guy is going 270 innigs instead of 210

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RJ only went 270 innings once in his career.  And Pedro averaged 218 innings per season compared to RJ's 231.  So the difference isn't as big as you think.  And Pedros adjusted ERA trumps RJ's.

S P I C E:
Well for those few years that Pedro was in his prime I would definitely pick him but over the course of their careers I would easily pick Randy.

"THE" MoSav:
Such a tough choice

OG Hack Wilson:
teflon tom, you had to push me




Pedro's top 10 years in innings:  241.1, 233.2, 217, 217, 217, 216.2, 213.1, 191.1, 194.2, 186.2


Randy's top 10 years in innings: 271.2, 260, 249.2, 248.2, 255.1, 245.2, 244.1, 225.2, 219.2, 214.1

look at how many more innings per season Randy was capable of getting your team!

Pedro's best 5 year span: (1997-2001): 1022 innings pitched, 2.18 ERA (215 ERA+), 1316 K, 84 wins 28 losses, 29 complete games, 11 shut-outs, 0.926 WHIP

Randy's best 5 year span: (1998-2002): 1274.1 innings pitched, 2.63 ERA (175 ERA+), 1746 K, 100 wins 38 losses 41 complete games, 17 shut outs, 1.070 WHIP

as you can see here, Randy pitches 252 more innings in 5 years (50 per year), he gets me more complete games, wins and shut-outs.  his ERA is higher because of the extra workage but 2.63 is AMAZING considering the offensive stats during those years



I'd take Pedro for a game in his prime, but for a season i'd easily take Randy Johnson in his prime.

stats courtesy:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/johnsra05.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/martipe02.shtml

herpes:

--- Quote from: Lefty Gomez on June 11, 2009, 04:44:26 PM ---teflon tom, you had to push me




Pedro's top 10 years in innings:  241.1, 233.2, 217, 217, 217, 216.2, 213.1, 191.1, 194.2, 186.2


Randy's top 10 years in innings: 271.2, 260, 249.2, 248.2, 255.1, 245.2, 244.1, 225.2, 219.2, 214.1

look at how many more innings per season Randy was capable of getting your team!

Pedro's best 5 year span: (1997-2001): 1022 innings pitched, 2.18 ERA (215 ERA+), 1316 K, 84 wins 28 losses, 29 complete games, 11 shut-outs, 0.926 WHIP

Randy's best 5 year span: (1998-2002): 1274.1 innings pitched, 2.63 ERA (175 ERA+), 1746 K, 100 wins 38 losses 41 complete games, 17 shut outs, 1.070 WHIP

as you can see here, Randy pitches 252 more innings in 5 years (50 per year), he gets me more complete games, wins and shut-outs.  his ERA is higher because of the extra workage but 2.63 is AMAZING considering the offensive stats during those years



I'd take Pedro for a game in his prime, but for a season i'd easily take Randy Johnson in his prime.

stats courtesy:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/johnsra05.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/martipe02.shtml

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I'd take Pedro in his prime any day of the week over RJ

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