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"Kobe doesn't pull off late-game heroics this time"
Teddy Roosevelt:
Kobe has a bad game and everyone says he's a choker. What idiots fail to realize is that no player, not Kobe, LeBron, Jordan, West, or whoever was able to step up ever time it was needed.
teecee:
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 12, 2009, 09:25:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on June 12, 2009, 08:52:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 12, 2009, 05:13:30 PM ---
--- Quote from: teecee on June 12, 2009, 09:10:48 AM ---
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 10, 2009, 04:04:01 PM ---anyone using 82games for anything needs to slap themselves. thats the same site that shows LeBron to be a better player than MJ...Kobe doesnt usually miss freethrows and he missed 5 last night. had he made those freethrows, we win the game. The difference is, Kobe always has a sense of when shit is urgent. Last nights game wasn't as urgent (ala the games we lost vs Houston & Denver). If you really think Orlando has a chance in this series, then you're jokin yourself. Kobe's performance in the 1st quarter was amazing...we all expected him to keep it up, but he stopped shooting...Kobe may be amazing, but there's only a certain extent to how amazing a player can be. EVERYONE fucks up. Even Magic and MJ fucked up...but since u wanna bring up LeBron, the difference in this season is that LeBron fucked up when it truly mattered...PeACe
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"Kobe doesn't pull off late-game heroics this time"-
No, he didn't again, but D-FISH did.
The difference between Lebron and Kobe is that Kobe has had clutch players who make plays when he turns the ball over, gets swatted, or str8 up misses. All great players need a clutch player beside them, at least one. EVERYONE does indeed fuck up, but the most successful players get backed up when needed most. Kobe was 11-31 and again didn't play all that great in the 4th or OT...
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what you dont seem to realize is that without kobe on the court, none of these players can do what they do...the fact that kobe draws so much attention is what gets these other players the open looks and the nice feeds...thats obvious shit right there.. kobe is way more than just a scorer, and the fact that you dont see this is mind-boggling.
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i'm really not trying to turn this into Kobe vs LeBron, but can you honestly say that Bron doesn't do the exact same with, drawing attention & gets players open looks?
he does that and manages to score more points, average more assits, win more games (regular season) & does it all with a weaker cast.
i don't how you shit on him all the time, i may never understand lol.
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Of course LeBron draws double teams...but he's as good a player as Kobe is. That's all there is to it. Same goes for Melo, Wade, etc. etc.
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You finally admit it then? :)
teecee:
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 12, 2009, 05:13:30 PM ---
--- Quote from: teecee on June 12, 2009, 09:10:48 AM ---
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 10, 2009, 04:04:01 PM ---anyone using 82games for anything needs to slap themselves. thats the same site that shows LeBron to be a better player than MJ...Kobe doesnt usually miss freethrows and he missed 5 last night. had he made those freethrows, we win the game. The difference is, Kobe always has a sense of when shit is urgent. Last nights game wasn't as urgent (ala the games we lost vs Houston & Denver). If you really think Orlando has a chance in this series, then you're jokin yourself. Kobe's performance in the 1st quarter was amazing...we all expected him to keep it up, but he stopped shooting...Kobe may be amazing, but there's only a certain extent to how amazing a player can be. EVERYONE fucks up. Even Magic and MJ fucked up...but since u wanna bring up LeBron, the difference in this season is that LeBron fucked up when it truly mattered...PeACe
--- End quote ---
"Kobe doesn't pull off late-game heroics this time"-
No, he didn't again, but D-FISH did.
The difference between Lebron and Kobe is that Kobe has had clutch players who make plays when he turns the ball over, gets swatted, or str8 up misses. All great players need a clutch player beside them, at least one. EVERYONE does indeed fuck up, but the most successful players get backed up when needed most. Kobe was 11-31 and again didn't play all that great in the 4th or OT...
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what you dont seem to realize is that without kobe on the court, none of these players can do what they do...the fact that kobe draws so much attention is what gets these other players the open looks and the nice feeds...thats obvious shit right there.. kobe is way more than just a scorer, and the fact that you dont see this is mind-boggling.
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When did I say anything to the contrary? All i said is Kobe has the luxury of a great team behind him to step up when he can't be superman all the time (as no superstar can be)
Quit arguing with yourself
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: teecee on June 13, 2009, 09:40:12 AM ---
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 12, 2009, 09:25:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on June 12, 2009, 08:52:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 12, 2009, 05:13:30 PM ---
--- Quote from: teecee on June 12, 2009, 09:10:48 AM ---
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 10, 2009, 04:04:01 PM ---anyone using 82games for anything needs to slap themselves. thats the same site that shows LeBron to be a better player than MJ...Kobe doesnt usually miss freethrows and he missed 5 last night. had he made those freethrows, we win the game. The difference is, Kobe always has a sense of when shit is urgent. Last nights game wasn't as urgent (ala the games we lost vs Houston & Denver). If you really think Orlando has a chance in this series, then you're jokin yourself. Kobe's performance in the 1st quarter was amazing...we all expected him to keep it up, but he stopped shooting...Kobe may be amazing, but there's only a certain extent to how amazing a player can be. EVERYONE fucks up. Even Magic and MJ fucked up...but since u wanna bring up LeBron, the difference in this season is that LeBron fucked up when it truly mattered...PeACe
--- End quote ---
"Kobe doesn't pull off late-game heroics this time"-
No, he didn't again, but D-FISH did.
The difference between Lebron and Kobe is that Kobe has had clutch players who make plays when he turns the ball over, gets swatted, or str8 up misses. All great players need a clutch player beside them, at least one. EVERYONE does indeed fuck up, but the most successful players get backed up when needed most. Kobe was 11-31 and again didn't play all that great in the 4th or OT...
--- End quote ---
what you dont seem to realize is that without kobe on the court, none of these players can do what they do...the fact that kobe draws so much attention is what gets these other players the open looks and the nice feeds...thats obvious shit right there.. kobe is way more than just a scorer, and the fact that you dont see this is mind-boggling.
--- End quote ---
i'm really not trying to turn this into Kobe vs LeBron, but can you honestly say that Bron doesn't do the exact same with, drawing attention & gets players open looks?
he does that and manages to score more points, average more assits, win more games (regular season) & does it all with a weaker cast.
i don't how you shit on him all the time, i may never understand lol.
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Of course LeBron draws double teams...but he's as good a player as Kobe is. That's all there is to it. Same goes for Melo, Wade, etc. etc.
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You finally admit it then? :)
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NOT as good...LOL. what a horrible fuck up on my part.
Tay:
--- Quote from: Ted Since `87 on June 13, 2009, 07:40:53 AM ---Kobe has a bad game and everyone says he's a choker. What idiots fail to realize is that no player, not Kobe, LeBron, Jordan, West, or whoever was able to step up ever time it was needed.
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A win is a win, you can say what you want but his team is up 3-1. The problem I see is people say "He's no Jordan" like it's a knock on Kobe, but nobody will ever be Jordan. If you don't like him personally or you think the commentators give him too much love that's fine, but don't try to tear him down like he isn't a great player. His pass to Gasol to cut the lead to 3 was ridiculous, and there's no doubt that the attention he draws gives his teammates better looks. Most people want to hit the game-winning shots, but a win is the ultimate goal.
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