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Hollingers All Time Greatest Franchise's (NBA)

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Don Jacob:
i would have put the bulls above the spurs, there's no reason why they should be above them. i'd also put philly above phoenix and probably san antonio as well.  then i'd probably put the spurs next then houston

M Dogg™:
Depending on the time of day, then these list always change. Last year, during the high of the Celtics win over the Lakers, Boston gets rank, right now with the Lakers going for the most titles post 1968, then they rank the Lakers number one. We wouldn't have a true answer until the era of LeBron when both KG and Kobe are dying down and all the titles are added up between them. In the 90's, during the Jordan Era, Boston was always ranked over the Lakers, so we wouldn't get a true ranking until about 4-5 years.

What this guy did was rank based off not only winning, but losing. So well the Celtics have more championships, they also have more losing seasons.


--- Quote ---Boston went eight years without a winning season in the '90s and was terrible before Russell arrived; overall, the Celtics have had seasons with 15, 19, 20, 22, 22, 24, 25 and 29 wins. Contrast that with the Lakers, who have won fewer than 30 games only twice -- both seasons coming half a century ago -- and it's no surprise that L.A. has won more games, more playoff games and more playoff series than Boston, and has nearly as many All-Star appearances.
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Next year I'm predicting a Lakers/Celtics rematch finals, this conversation will continue.

Tay:
I agree with what you guys have said so far: 1 & 2 are kind-of a tossup, he explained it pretty well, so I would keep it how he has it. But Pheonix should be dropped a few spots. Looking at the rest of it, I figured Detroit would be a lot higher, and it looks funny seeing Oklahoma City, based on their success with the Sonics.

Here's the rest of the list for anyone who cares: No. 11: Milwaukee Bucks No. 12: Oklahoma City Thunder No. 13: Detroit Pistons No. 14: Miami Heat No. 15: Orlando Magic No. 16: New York Knicks No. 17: Dallas Mavericks No. 18: Denver Nuggets No. 19: Cleveland Cavaliers No. 20: Golden State Warriors No. 21: New Jersey Nets No. 22: Atlanta Hawks No. 23: Washington Wizards No. 24: New Orleans Hornets No. 25: Sacramento Kings No. 26: Minnesota Timberwolves No. 27: Toronto Raptors No. 28: Charlotte Bobcats No. 29: Los Angeles Clippers No. 30: Memphis Grizzlies

M Dogg™:

--- Quote from: Don Jacob on June 11, 2009, 05:24:47 PM ---i would have put the bulls above the spurs, there's no reason why they should be above them. i'd also put philly above phoenix and probably san antonio as well.  then i'd probably put the spurs next then houston

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He made a point, and it's a point I made to every Bull fan since the Jordan Era, out side of Jordan, the Bulls have SUCKED FAT DONKEY BALLS!!! The Spurs were always competitive, then ran into some titles in the Duncan Era, even beating Shaq's Lakers. So well I'd put Jordan's Bulls over Duncan's Spurs, I'd take the overall Spurs franchise over the Bulls, 'cause outside of the 90's, the Bulls are the Mid-West Clippers.

.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:

--- Quote from: Don Jacob on June 11, 2009, 05:24:47 PM ---i would have put the bulls above the spurs, there's no reason why they should be above them. i'd also put philly above phoenix and probably san antonio as well.  then i'd probably put the spurs next then houston

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lol why?

He is rating teams based on their entire history in the league. The Bulls greatness is mostly limited to the 90's. 

The Spurs as a franchise...

-4 Championships
-Only former ABA team to win a Championship
-3rd Highest Winning percentage in NBA all time
-2nd Highest Winning percentage in NBA Finals history
-Have only missed the playoffs 4 times in team history
-Up until this year, they had the most division titles (16) out of any team in the league during their existence (32 yrs).  Lakers were second with 15, but tied them this year.
-Have made the playoffs 19 of the last 20 yrs, only missing one year when Robinson was injured during the season (the year that got them the #1 pick in the draft, and Duncan).

there is a reason he says they are "comfortably" in the 3rd spot.

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