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Why do people follow the bible and take it seriously?
The King:
--- Quote from: GET YOUR WALK ON on July 22, 2009, 09:48:46 PM ---the king, therefore the bible/church etc...is a bidness?
would you agree?
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Sure man. But I don't see the purpose. The people in charge of the church probably don't have some evil agenda. They probably believe every word of the shit. What bothers me the most is how hypocritical religious people are. Isn't the majority of America religious? And if so, why is American a shit whole of morality? Isn't the point of religion to promote being a good and moral person? Look at the American culture today. Not one person can honestly say America is a moral country. What country has the most murders, most rapes, most violent crimes? And I bet most of these people committing these crimes believe in god.
Religion should bread selflessness. But instead, the majority of people are so concerned with their own personal wealth, their own personal problems, they could give a shit how their actions affect other people. I know so many people who spend every waking moment dwelling on their insignificant problems. Unless you have cancer, or you're child just died, or someone burned your house down, what real problems do you have? Very few.
My point is, religious people aren't all stupid, but the majority of people in general are. The majority of people are fucking dumb. And the majority of these dumb people, believe in idiotic things (like the Bible) to explain the shit they don't understand. Religion is a crutch for people who are either to stupid, or too lazy to realize, and learn the truth.
--- Quote ---your soul is just another word for your identity. Your identity is merely your memories, stored in your brain. Your brain ceases to function, along with the rest of your body when you die.
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Wise words.
QuietTruth:
--- Quote from: The King on July 22, 2009, 11:06:44 PM ---Sure man. But I don't see the purpose. The people in charge of the church probably don't have some evil agenda. They probably believe every word of the shit. What bothers me the most is how hypocritical religious people are. Isn't the majority of America religious? And if so, why is American a shit whole of morality? Isn't the point of religion to promote being a good and moral person? Look at the American culture today. Not one person can honestly say America is a moral country. What country has the most murders, most rapes, most violent crimes? And I bet most of these people committing these crimes believe in god.
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And that's the fuckin' truth. And it's a damn shame!
--- Quote from: The King on July 22, 2009, 11:06:44 PM ---And the majority of these dumb people, believe in idiotic things (like the Bible) to explain the shit they don't understand.
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Hold up, becuz Atheists can't explain anythang more than we can.
If anybody is more arrogant and ignorant it's them, more than anybody else. Just look damn it. They think they are the smartest groups of people to walk God's green Earth. Calling religious people dumb. Like we retarded. Wait up a minute, how could you walk around believing everybody is unimportant. Again, it's crazy how ya'll quick to call stupidity on people, yet look at the ways ya'll minds operate.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: The King on July 22, 2009, 11:06:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: GET YOUR WALK ON on July 22, 2009, 09:48:46 PM ---the king, therefore the bible/church etc...is a bidness?
would you agree?
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Sure man. But I don't see the purpose. The people in charge of the church probably don't have some evil agenda. They probably believe every word of the shit. What bothers me the most is how hypocritical religious people are. Isn't the majority of America religious? And if so, why is American a shit whole of morality? Isn't the point of religion to promote being a good and moral person? Look at the American culture today. Not one person can honestly say America is a moral country. What country has the most murders, most rapes, most violent crimes? And I bet most of these people committing these crimes believe in god.
Religion should bread selflessness. But instead, the majority of people are so concerned with their own personal wealth, their own personal problems, they could give a shit how their actions affect other people. I know so many people who spend every waking moment dwelling on their insignificant problems. Unless you have cancer, or you're child just died, or someone burned your house down, what real problems do you have? Very few.
My point is, religious people aren't all stupid, but the majority of people in general are. The majority of people are fucking dumb. And the majority of these dumb people, believe in idiotic things (like the Bible) to explain the shit they don't understand. Religion is a crutch for people who are either to stupid, or too lazy to realize, and learn the truth.
--- Quote ---your soul is just another word for your identity. Your identity is merely your memories, stored in your brain. Your brain ceases to function, along with the rest of your body when you die.
--- End quote ---
Wise words.
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What stats are you looking at? The US is not even close to the top of the list when it comes to muder, rape and violent crime rates. It's not the safest country in the world when it comes to that.
You say the US is supposed to be a religious country like every other country isn't. Name me all these non-religious countries to compare to the US.
.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:
--- Quote from: GET YOUR WALK ON on July 22, 2009, 09:25:50 PM ---daygo do you go to church? (are you religious?)
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not a chance lol
.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:
--- Quote from: Shallow on July 22, 2009, 09:58:52 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on July 22, 2009, 08:00:17 AM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on July 19, 2009, 08:39:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on July 01, 2009, 11:03:55 AM ---People follow it for all the wrong reasons. Mainly fear. Kids believe in Santa Claus because they are afraid they wont get the presents the want at Christmas...until some adult explains to them that Santa is not real. He is make believe. Imagine if there were no rational adults to explain that to young children. They'd become adults that believed in such a ridiculous idea of a fat man from the North Pole watching over everyone to see who's naughty and nice, and swoops down in one night to bring presents to EVERYone lol. Seems so silly for adults to believe such an obviously made up character huh? Not like God and that Jesus character. Their existence makes so much more sense... :-\
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So if an adult never told you Santa wasn't real you'd still believe in Santa?
I guess you're as stupid as your post is then. Most kids I grew up with just figured out Santa wasn't real. We didn't need a sit down explanation. Kids simply outgrow certain things. Scoffing at the idea of God when many of the world's most reasonable and intelligent people belive in God is simply ignorant on your part. Santa was made up as a story and admitted as such. By all historical accounts the early Christians believed in Jesus and died for real to promote them. It was never implied anywhere in history that Jesus was allegory to them and they didn't really believe. No one died defending Kris Kringle.
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No, I wouldnt still believe in Santa. Which is why I am able to understand that religion is completely bullshit as well. Adults fear death just as children do. They dont fear getting coal in their stockings the same way children do. People become completely stupid and tend to believe in anything that will comfort them when they are in fear. More intelligent people understand this, which is why the more intelligent people invented this scam in the first place. Does it matter if people who you consider "intelligent" believe in God? No. Does it make God any more real? lol Definetely not. There are intelligent people who think a rabbits foot brings them good luck. Does that mean its logical to believe rabbits feet are lucky? The "idea" of God has not, and never will be proven because it is fake. If you need to cling to a higher being like a baby does a security blanket to make you feel better about the fact that when you die...it will be OVER. Then go ahead. Thats your choice. Just don't get upset when logical people look at you and laugh.
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You said Santa and God are the same and you said adults tell children Santa is fake and that's why they stop believing. Now you're changing your stance.
Keep scoffing at the idea of religion and those "logical" people you hang out with and laugh with can laugh at Isaac Newton before they laugh at me. A man a lot smarter than maybe every athiest combined believed in the "idea" of God. He actually attributed his genius to God and called it a gift. It was the only way he could explain how he could see things in math and science that 99.9% of the rest of the world's smartest people couldn't even fathom.
I guess he wasn't that smart after all. Who needs physics and calculus anyway?
I don't laugh at or scoff at athiests. If you don't believe in anything after, fine by me. I don't think less of you or think you'll be punished. I simply chose to have faith in more from this world than what we have as humans from anywhere between 1 and 100 years. It doesn't change anything about the way I live my life. There is nothing I enjoy doing that I refrain from doing because I think God says it's wrong. If I fel it's right I'll do it. If I don't I won't
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I didnt say Santa and God are the same. I said they are believed in for the same reason. Fear. Children believe in Santa because they believe if they are good, and ask Santa for presents...they will get them. They believe if they are bad, they will get a stocking full of coal. Likewise, people who believe in God (Im using religions such as Christianity as an example) believe for the same reasons. Heaven being Presents, Stocking full of coal being Hell. Its obviously a device invented to keep people in line. Its a political tool. Man is always afraid of what he can not understand. In order to ease those fears, you create an answer out of nothing. Its far to difficult to simply say, "I dont know". So instead you have this group who claims to know what NO one can in order to comfort their own insecurities. Smart politicians play on those fears. As stupid as George Bush was, the people around him were smart enough to know that even in the 21st century you can control people with fear. Imagine 1,000's of years ago. NOBODY knows what happens after death and everyone fears it (admit it or not) so what easier tool to use to control people then to pretend to know the answer to THAT.
As far as you bringing up Isaac Newton lol Are you serious? You can be a relatively smart human being, even a genius and still believe in something completely illogical. You think there are no geniuses that believe in a lucky rabbits foot, etc? lol
I am a firm believer in, do what you want as long as you dont hurt anyone. If you believe somehow that your religion makes you better, by all means...believe away. But dont pretend that because you live by a blind faith, you know the answer. You dont know the answer, just like me. The only difference is most religious nuts pretend to because some other man told them so. lol I am completely secure in the fact that some things we are just incapable of understanding now. 1,000 years from now....if we havent become completely extinct, maybe man will have a much better understanding of things. At one point it made complete sense to believe the Earth was flat and that the Sun revolved around us.
And you say you dont believe a non believer will be punished. What religion are you?
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