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Scrappy Doo:

--- Quote from: ikke on July 01, 2009, 11:14:49 AM ---@Blasphemy
Let's stop trying to prove were superior to eachother, that shit can go on forever since we both seem to have alot intelligence (except my spelling but fuckit I'm pretty good for somebody not in an English country)


--- Quote from: Quik on July 01, 2009, 11:04:40 AM ---First of all N. Korea is not a super power. They are a poor country with a large army (with like 60's equipment).
My Question is why do they care about N.Korea and dong give a fuck about for example Darfur and a dozen African countries which are under dictatorship right now ??? I think the question is there is no money in Darfur.

They have nukes and threatend to attack pearl harbor, They've given up on africa it seems

You say that the Iran is selling/giving weapons to terrorists, but isnt that the same thing the Americans did in Afghanistan during the 80's ? The only difference is that back then those people were called freedom fighters and today the same people are called terrorists.

Why not give them a chance to develop Nuclear Technology ? Who is America/Nato to be the Judge....ofcourse you can say that there is a semi-dictatorship going on in Iran, that is radical but what about Israel then ? They have a Faaaaaar Right wing goverment and they have the A-Bomb.
Nato and Un agreed that nuclear nuclear weapon technology should NOT be spreaded because of it's powers, this has been so since the cuba crisis in the cold war. Even if you bomb every country but your own you're people will die to due to the ecologic concequenses.

I think citizens of some European countries have more freedoms than Americans (Netherland,Germany,Austria,Switzerland,Sweden,Noway for example)
Some more or equal, Mostly because we have more social laws, this can be seen as less freedom but really, it keeps you from going poor, so more freedom of life etc.

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Same here :D

LAXCENTRAL:
hey i dono about that dogg... DAILY SHOW HAS THE BEST NEWS... TRY OTHER SOURCES LIKE NPR...


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Hey, I'm not going to lie, Daily Show is sadly the only show with truth. CNN's to busy with jackson, and Fox is to pussy ridding jackson and taking out Obama. Sadly the only true news are so corrupted with their own partys agenda (CNN democratic, Fox Republican) that you'll never get anything true. But yeah, I know Daily Show shouldn't be a credit area, but ironically its the only 1 that doesn't sensationalize everything beyond what it is. Besides, His Cheney was epic.  :laugh: 
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virtuoso:
If you control the geopolitical landscape either through the direct use of force, or via the most commonly employed method of installing puppet governments into power, then you are influencing the direction the world is going in. The problem is as we have seen time and time again, the politicians are simply students of this ideology, some more understanding than others of course, but the real driving force is the foundations and the military industrial complex. What history has always taught us is too much power gets abused, beyond which the iraq war was no accident, the neocons clearly laid out their plans towards the middle east prior to September 11. Of course September 11 gave them impetus and political sway needed to sell the public on these wars, but the iraq war in particular was a fabricated lie which has cost the lives of conservatively 500,000, what's more it was a collaborative effort between no less than 3 intelligence agencies; the italian, the british and the americans. Essentially the world is being run by an oligopoly who want as much of the worlds resources as they can. This is sold as something which benefits the "west" but it doesn't, witness the constant spikes in oil, the huge budget deficits and all of the western soliders lives which have been lost, those who are missing limbs, parts of their face. There is no policing of the world because policing implies that there is a moral basis for their actions, there is no moral basis beyond a pr exercise. The primary motivation is to control, if you think about it in business terms, it's a barrier to entry, instead of destructive pricing to really hurt your competitors, you bomb the shit out of them, or oppress them from within their own borders.

ikke:

--- Quote from: virtuoso on July 01, 2009, 12:43:50 PM ---If you control the geopolitical landscape either through the direct use of force, or via the most commonly employed method of installing puppet governments into power, then you are influencing the direction the world is going in. The problem is as we have seen time and time again, the politicians are simply students of this ideology, some more understanding than others of course, but the real driving force is the foundations and the military industrial complex. What history has always taught us is too much power gets abused, beyond which the iraq war was no accident, the neocons clearly laid out their plans towards the middle east prior to September 11. Of course September 11 gave them impetus and political sway needed to sell the public on these wars, but the iraq war in particular was a fabricated lie which has cost the lives of conservatively 500,000, what's more it was a collaborative effort between no less than 3 intelligence agencies; the italian, the british and the americans. Essentially the world is being run by an oligopoly who want as much of the worlds resources as they can. This is sold as something which benefits the "west" but it doesn't, witness the constant spikes in oil, the huge budget deficits and all of the western soliders lives which have been lost, those who are missing limbs, parts of their face. There is no policing of the world because policing implies that there is a moral basis for their actions, there is no moral basis beyond a pr exercise. The primary motivation is to control, if you think about it in business terms, it's a barrier to entry, instead of destructive pricing to really hurt your competitors, you bomb the shit out of them, or oppress them from within their own borders.

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or simply, blood for oil

virtuoso:

There is always a multi faceted motivation for whatever plans are implemented but yes, any kind of natural resources need to be controlled.

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