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herpes:

--- Quote from: HACK WILSON on July 11, 2009, 02:19:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teflon Tom on July 11, 2009, 01:29:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: HACK WILSON on July 11, 2009, 01:19:43 PM ---Mets need to trade Reyes for a pitcher once he gets healthy again


NL is all about pitching anyways

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You don't trade Jose Reyes for anyone unless they are a certified ace.  You don't trade the best table setter in baseball like he's some bum.  Reyes is the most important player on the roster, more so than Wright and Santana.  And if you have watched any Met games you will know even though pitching hasn't been good for the Mets, it's the offense that has crippled them.  And unless the Mets plan on changing the OF dimensions they will have to model there team after those 80's Cards team.  And Reyes is the perfect guy for that.  Don't believe the media hype about Reyes having a bad attitude.  He is just an dumb ass that hangs around a negative element in the clubhouse (Delgado).  The Mets should not move Reyes unless they are getting back a legit number 1.

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Reyes is not better than Ichiro Suzuki in my opinion

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Ichiro has nothing to do with this.  Typical Yankee fan fashion, they try and talk about other teams like they know and when someone educates them it's change the subject.  And I would take Reyes over Ichiro, no knock on him at all though.

OG Hack Wilson:
Typical Teflon response...getting butt hurt when someone questions him.


since Reyes became a full time lead-off hitter in 2004:


reyes per 162 games: .285/.334/.435, 196 hits, 34 doubles, 15 triples, 13 HR, 66 RBI, 113 runs, 65 SB, 16 CS, 83 K, 101 OPS+

ichiro per 162 games: .335/.380/.430, 232 hits, 23 doubles, 8 triples, 9 HR, 57 RBI, 106 runs, 39 SB, 7 CS, 62 K, 117 OPS+



as you can tell, Ichiro is going to get onbase ALOT more often, his slugging % is just 5 points below and his OPS+ dwarfs REyes.


Reyes may get more extra base hits (62 to 40) but Ichiro is still going to get 40 more hits a year!


Ichiro plays his position better defensively also....granted Reyes does play the more important spot, he doesn't play it as well.

Chamillitary Click:
LOL, Ichiro is hands down the better player.

EDIT: the only thing Reyes has on Ich is that Jose is a better SS lol.

Chamillitary Click:

--- Quote from: Teflon Tom on July 11, 2009, 02:19:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on July 11, 2009, 01:52:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teflon Tom on July 11, 2009, 01:29:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on July 11, 2009, 01:23:54 PM ---
--- Quote from: HACK WILSON on July 11, 2009, 01:19:43 PM ---Mets need to trade Reyes.

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period.

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Again you show you know nothing about baseball.  You're a good kid Cham you just need some guidance.

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i assuming you don't understand Reyes injury.

he will never fully recover, even if he comes back; he'll be at 90%, with his legs.

no doubt he will hurt himself again within half a year of playing if he pushes himself too hard.

so might as well trade him while he is still at top value, before other teams see that he is going to come back injury prone.

not saying just dump him for anybody, but when he comes back i would say deal him for somebody good, which you would get for him.

i never cared for his act to begin with, but it would be a smart move for the Mets.

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LMFAO when did you become a doctor ?  You're the first person to even mention he won't be the same player lmfao. And that is what everyone said about him back in 2003-04 when he had the calf problems b/c the joke of an organization misdiagnosed his injury and tried to change his running style.  And 90% Reyes is still one of the most explosive players in baseball.  And you never cared his act, whats that ?  Being one of the most explosive and exciting players in baseball.  If he were a Yank you would be sucking him off.

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he's a bitch, even Keith Hernandez shits on him lmao.

but yeah, that injury is going to fuck him over, season after season.

he will spend more of his career on the DL than on the field lol (that's a joke before you come back saying "you know nothing"). ;)

thisoneguy360:

--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on July 11, 2009, 02:46:50 PM ---LOL, Ichiro is hands down the better player.

EDIT: the only thing Reyes has on Ich is that Jose is a better SS lol.

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Yeah I'd say Ichiro is definitely better, they're different players though. Even though Ichiro could hit for power he chooses to hit purely contact and can get on base virtually at will. Reyes can hit for average but tends to drive the ball more rather than going for the little hits. Ichiro>>Reyes IMO, both amazing talents though.

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