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John Lennon Fans: What do you think of this song dedicated to his murderer?

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Shallow:
The older I get the stupider I think he was politically. It was probably all the drugs he was on. I don't hate the song, (the original Imagine), the melody is OK, the lyrics are just way too pretentious and silly for me.

white Boy:

--- Quote from: Shallow on July 14, 2009, 08:26:44 AM ---The older I get the stupider I think he was politically. It was probably all the drugs he was on. I don't hate the song, (the original Imagine), the melody is OK, the lyrics are just way too pretentious and silly for me.

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but its not like its meant to be taken fully serious, its just a dream of a utopia

Shallow:

--- Quote from: white Boy on July 14, 2009, 10:30:46 AM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on July 14, 2009, 08:26:44 AM ---The older I get the stupider I think he was politically. It was probably all the drugs he was on. I don't hate the song, (the original Imagine), the melody is OK, the lyrics are just way too pretentious and silly for me.

--- End quote ---
but its not like its meant to be taken fully serious, its just a dream of a utopia

--- End quote ---


Every interview I've seen of that guy makes me think those were the beliefs he wished the world had. Some utopia. Bunch of sissy fags sitting around doing nothing. Never killing anything and never feeling they have anything worth dieing for. That nihilist attitude would not lead to a utopia. It would to animals reigning supreme over humans, because they would kill, and die, for their survival.


Then again he was an addict that beat up his family before he walked out on them. So maybe the song was tongue and cheek.

white Boy:

--- Quote from: Shallow on July 14, 2009, 11:26:06 AM ---
--- Quote from: white Boy on July 14, 2009, 10:30:46 AM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on July 14, 2009, 08:26:44 AM ---The older I get the stupider I think he was politically. It was probably all the drugs he was on. I don't hate the song, (the original Imagine), the melody is OK, the lyrics are just way too pretentious and silly for me.

--- End quote ---
but its not like its meant to be taken fully serious, its just a dream of a utopia

--- End quote ---


Every interview I've seen of that guy makes me think those were the beliefs he wished the world had. Some utopia. Bunch of sissy fags sitting around doing nothing. Never killing anything and never feeling they have anything worth dieing for. That nihilist attitude would not lead to a utopia. It would to animals reigning supreme over humans, because they would kill, and die, for their survival.


Then again he was an addict that beat up his family before he walked out on them. So maybe the song was tongue and cheek.

--- End quote ---
i dont take it seriously, and thus i cant really critique it like that, its not a 'practical' song, but even if lennon read brave new world i still think he would have made it, i cant attest to his actual feeling towards that life, but hey, he def was a BAD addict at that time and was pretty wacked out, so im sure for some point in time he did, doesnt change the way i hear the song though

Shallow:

--- Quote from: white Boy on July 14, 2009, 05:32:05 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on July 14, 2009, 11:26:06 AM ---
--- Quote from: white Boy on July 14, 2009, 10:30:46 AM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on July 14, 2009, 08:26:44 AM ---The older I get the stupider I think he was politically. It was probably all the drugs he was on. I don't hate the song, (the original Imagine), the melody is OK, the lyrics are just way too pretentious and silly for me.

--- End quote ---
but its not like its meant to be taken fully serious, its just a dream of a utopia

--- End quote ---


Every interview I've seen of that guy makes me think those were the beliefs he wished the world had. Some utopia. Bunch of sissy fags sitting around doing nothing. Never killing anything and never feeling they have anything worth dieing for. That nihilist attitude would not lead to a utopia. It would to animals reigning supreme over humans, because they would kill, and die, for their survival.


Then again he was an addict that beat up his family before he walked out on them. So maybe the song was tongue and cheek.

--- End quote ---
i dont take it seriously, and thus i cant really critique it like that, its not a 'practical' song, but even if lennon read brave new world i still think he would have made it, i cant attest to his actual feeling towards that life, but hey, he def was a BAD addict at that time and was pretty wacked out, so im sure for some point in time he did, doesnt change the way i hear the song though

--- End quote ---


Fair enough. Maybe it's more the hippies that praise the song for being "so true" that bother me more. And by hippies I mean late teen early 20s idealists going through the worst part of their leftist phase.

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