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Quote from: rapsodie on July 15, 2009, 10:41:18 AMwhy are we even talking about sales? why do sales even matter?i love how people try and use the "now" to try to justify why a particular rapper should be considered better. Like time even matters. Time is relative. A year from now there will be a completely different set of rappers that people are talking about and stanning up to. Wu Tang has been in the game over 15 years. slaughterhouse is a newly formed group. If you compare their debuts and what impact they've made, obviously they don't match up. For all we know they will fail and go back to their individual careers. I'm not saying they can't make an impact. But people are talking like they already have this string of accomplishments that can be compared against a legendary hip hop group that has already made their mark. Its ridiculous. i doubt that slaughterhouse could outsell Wu even today but we will see. I hope they can sell well and I hope they do blow up, but don't assume anything.lol, whose fault is that? they weren't born soon enough?i've said it before, The Marshall Mathers LP was the last "true classic" that gets thrown into top "number" albums of all time.now in an age, where sales go to people who don't even rap; how can any album make that impact? never again will their be a top selling, hard lyrical spitting artist.plus people refuse to allow albums of today to even be in the same sentence as albums from the 90's, people won't ever allow these albums to even come close to making an impact.then people want to go & say "hip hop is dead" when you got 4 of the best rappers in hip hop, who actually rap their asses off, in the same group; just putting music out for the fans & trying to give actual rap a comeback & you got people saying "one of the members isn't good", "the group as a whole is overrated", constant threads i go into about Slaughterhouse i wouldn't say people are talking shit to the extreme, but people say things that show dis-interest & i just don't get it lol. but thanks to you guys, Lil' Wayne just sold 3 million albums LMAO.anyway, albums today simply cannot hold the same impact; because it's nothing new. like i said, The Marshall Mathers LP is concidered like the last "real classic" & it's because it's from a rapper who made an amazing impact by being white. but sales really shouldn't even be the talked about, it doesn't equal impact or matter in 2009. if the album is great, it shouldn't matter how much it sells, it's a great album.it happens in sports all the time, legends retire, we praise them; but we find new ones to root for & become fans of, we don't have to constantly live in the past.
why are we even talking about sales? why do sales even matter?i love how people try and use the "now" to try to justify why a particular rapper should be considered better. Like time even matters. Time is relative. A year from now there will be a completely different set of rappers that people are talking about and stanning up to. Wu Tang has been in the game over 15 years. slaughterhouse is a newly formed group. If you compare their debuts and what impact they've made, obviously they don't match up. For all we know they will fail and go back to their individual careers. I'm not saying they can't make an impact. But people are talking like they already have this string of accomplishments that can be compared against a legendary hip hop group that has already made their mark. Its ridiculous. i doubt that slaughterhouse could outsell Wu even today but we will see. I hope they can sell well and I hope they do blow up, but don't assume anything.
Quote from: Okka on July 15, 2009, 10:55:17 AM"8 Diagrams" was garbage, that might be the reason why people didn't buy it I think 8 Diagrams was decent but definitely not up to par with their other shit
"8 Diagrams" was garbage, that might be the reason why people didn't buy it
Everyone says that bullshit release good Music and ill buy it and everyone is full of shit.Your going dl that shit for free no matter the quality shut the fuck up
I own over 1500 real cds
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on July 15, 2009, 10:57:09 AMQuote from: rapsodie on July 15, 2009, 10:41:18 AMwhy are we even talking about sales? why do sales even matter?i love how people try and use the "now" to try to justify why a particular rapper should be considered better. Like time even matters. Time is relative. A year from now there will be a completely different set of rappers that people are talking about and stanning up to. Wu Tang has been in the game over 15 years. slaughterhouse is a newly formed group. If you compare their debuts and what impact they've made, obviously they don't match up. For all we know they will fail and go back to their individual careers. I'm not saying they can't make an impact. But people are talking like they already have this string of accomplishments that can be compared against a legendary hip hop group that has already made their mark. Its ridiculous. i doubt that slaughterhouse could outsell Wu even today but we will see. I hope they can sell well and I hope they do blow up, but don't assume anything.lol, whose fault is that? they weren't born soon enough?i've said it before, The Marshall Mathers LP was the last "true classic" that gets thrown into top "number" albums of all time.now in an age, where sales go to people who don't even rap; how can any album make that impact? never again will their be a top selling, hard lyrical spitting artist.plus people refuse to allow albums of today to even be in the same sentence as albums from the 90's, people won't ever allow these albums to even come close to making an impact.then people want to go & say "hip hop is dead" when you got 4 of the best rappers in hip hop, who actually rap their asses off, in the same group; just putting music out for the fans & trying to give actual rap a comeback & you got people saying "one of the members isn't good", "the group as a whole is overrated", constant threads i go into about Slaughterhouse i wouldn't say people are talking shit to the extreme, but people say things that show dis-interest & i just don't get it lol. but thanks to you guys, Lil' Wayne just sold 3 million albums LMAO.anyway, albums today simply cannot hold the same impact; because it's nothing new. like i said, The Marshall Mathers LP is concidered like the last "real classic" & it's because it's from a rapper who made an amazing impact by being white. but sales really shouldn't even be the talked about, it doesn't equal impact or matter in 2009. if the album is great, it shouldn't matter how much it sells, it's a great album.it happens in sports all the time, legends retire, we praise them; but we find new ones to root for & become fans of, we don't have to constantly live in the past.The Marshal Mathers LP came out in 2000. There have been quite a few classics since then. The Blueprint, Stillmatic, God's Son, The Black Album, Like Water For Chocolate, Be, College Dropout, The Cool etc. These are better albums than MMLP. Not to mention all the underground classics. Your little theory fails.its only been the last few years where there have been no mainstream classic albums and that's because the mainstream music has suffered. 2009 has been a terrible year for mainstream albums. So far there have been a string of disappointing albums, only a few standout albums and no classics.Do me a favor and read my post thoroughly if you are going to respond. You didn't even listen to What I was saying because your are repeating what I was just responding about. What has Slaughterhouse accomplished besides several dope songs? Have they put out a string of great/classic group albums? Have they established themselves as great artists on their own? The only members who have put out good albums are Royce and Budden. And even then, are you honestly going to compare Padded Room to OB4CL or Liquid Swords? If so, you are straight up delusional. I've never said that slaughterhouse isn't good or isn't capable of being great. I'm looking forward to seeing what they can do. BUT THEY HAVEN'T EVEN RELEASED AN ALBUM YET.STOP COMPARING THEM TO ONE OF THE GREATEST HIP HOP GROUPS OF ALL TIME WHEN THEY'VE ONLY DONE 8 TRACKS TOGETHER. Another thing I want to talk about is stans. Being a Slaughterhouse groupie doesn't help Slaughterhouse, it hurts them by turning away potential fans. Why do you think so many people hate lil wayne? He has some decent songs, he's not as terrible as people make him out to be. It's because his groupies go around saying he's the greatest rapper alive and it pisses people off. Some of these people would actually be listening to lil wayne if it weren't for his groupies. It's the same for Slaughterhouse. Many of these people that you argue with might have copped the album, even if they are only a casual listener. Now, thanks to you, they aren't even checking for Slaughterhouse at all.Don't be part of the problem, be part of the solution. Stop being a stan and more people will check for Budden or Slaughterhouse. Instead of arguing on a forum and calling people haters and turning away potential fans. If someone makes a stupid comment like Slaughterhouse sucks then feel free to defend them, but if someone thinks they aren't the greatest group ever, or is making legit criticism then stfu and stop being a groupie.