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Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
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--- Quote from: Antonio on July 25, 2009, 05:25:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on July 25, 2009, 03:53:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: Antonio on July 25, 2009, 03:22:55 PM ---Duncan is better than Gasol (even tho Pau proved he can be "that" good too, expecially since he's younger and with probably an higher basketball IQ and much room to improve). But what's the point comparing him to Parker, Ginobili or Jefferson? LOL. You guys are hylarious. I said it: if we keep Odom we're even better than last year, so we are the team to beat. Period.
Oh, on a side note..
KOBE > GINOBILI
ARTEST > JEFFERSON
FISHER < PARKER
ODOM > McDYESS
It's really not arguable.
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First off, Gasol has proven he can be better then the best power forward of all time? LOL. So PAU= a top 10 player all time in the NBA?? Are you fuckin kidding me??
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So.. which part of "Duncan is better than Gasol" did you miss? I wrote that Pau proved he can be "that" good (meaning on Duncan's level). And i'm obviously not comparing their careers. I'm talking about last season: Pau was as good as Duncan.
--- Quote ---He had a worse year then Duncan last year and that was with Duncan having a down year with the injuries. And higher basketball IQ?!? LOL!!!! Duncan is arguably the best fundamental basketball player of all time. His basketball IQ along with his skills are what make him one of the best ever. Not his athletisism. I hate to put a ceiling on someone, but cmon man. You know damn well Gasol will NEVER reach that level. Greatness is typically evident from the beginning.
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First of all having good basketball IQ and having great fundamentals are two different things. That said, Gasol has better fundamentals too. That doesn't make him better than Duncan, tho. Luke Walton has better basketball IQ and fundamentals than LeBron James, is he better than him? No. Duncan is better than Gasol, like i said, and he's a winner, a true leader, a wonderful player, a player who doesn't have up and downs like Gasol. But Gasol can be as good as him at this moment of their careers, and his basketball IQ helped him learning triangle so damn fast, adapting to the NBA style so quickly, and it will probably lead him to be a Duncan-type of player in the next years.
--- Quote ---I said from day one you guys were the team to beat. NIK is the one who likes to make outrageous claims (and u know it) about the Lakers being head and shoulders above everyone lol. IF you guys get Odom back, i think you are better then last year. IF you dont, you are worse.
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LOL we do agree then.
--- Quote ---We unarguable improved and if we stay healthy should be right with the Lakers all year.
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You will.
--- Quote ---As for your comparisons lol For one, Ginobli is a bench player and > ANYone on LA's bench.
Kobe>>> Mason
Artest/ Jefferson (too close to call) I really have to see how Jefferson adapts. He should be a consistent 17-21 ppg guy.
Fisher<<<Parker
Gasol<Duncan
Bynum<McDyess (McDyess is a proven complimentary big man, but Bynum might surpass McDyess throughout the year
Odom<Ginobli (this is made closer then normal due to Ginobli's injuries. If he's healthy, he's an all-star player if the team started him.)
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Whatever...
Lakers with Odom > Spurs (& every other fucking team in the League)
Lakers without Odom = everything can happen cause Cavs, Magic, Celtics, Lakers, Spurs & Nuggets will all be on the same level, basically.
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Sorry man. I kind of stopped following you when you said Gasol is better fundamentally then Duncan. Duncan is arguably the bed fundamental player of all time, at least as a big. Gasol has a good year last year, no doubt. Statiscally though he was still not as good as Duncan and thats with Duncan playing less minutes per game, missing some games due to injury, and not getting the easy lay ins that Gasol will get due to Kobe drawing so much attention from the defense.
Antonio:
^ You have never seen a 15 years old Gasol playing basketball.
Watch this and holla back when you see something similiar done by your man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/ggrGJFH8xjY
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/7LYOWjzeq6U
And tell me when Duncan managed himself to play that good with another guard/point guard, reading the situations this way, adapting his game to fix this way to an hard system to understand like the triangle, etc..
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/cZSqXZ8D4ns
You are talking about jumpshots and rebounds only, lol. I'm talking about REAL basketball IQ and REAL fundamentals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/rLW11MK3c18
.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:
--- Quote from: Antonio on July 25, 2009, 05:37:08 PM ---^ You have never seen a 15 years old Gasol playing basketball.
Watch this and holla back when you see something similiar done by your man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/ggrGJFH8xjY
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/7LYOWjzeq6U
And tell me when Duncan managed himself to play that good with another guard/point guard, reading the situations this way, adapting his game to fix this way to an hard system to understand like the triangle, etc..
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/cZSqXZ8D4ns
You are talking about jumpshots and rebounds only, lol. I'm talking about REAL basketball IQ and REAL fundamentals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/rLW11MK3c18
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i cant see those when Im at work. Him playing in the triangle means shit. So did Luc Longley and so would make other bigmen if thats the system their team ran. Duncans nickname is the "Big Fundamental" for a reason. He didnt give HIMself the name lol. If you think Duncan wouldnt thrive in the triangle as much if not more then any other big man then i dont know what to say to u lol
Teddy Roosevelt:
--- Quote from: 7even on July 25, 2009, 05:11:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on July 25, 2009, 05:08:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: GET YOUR WALK ON on July 25, 2009, 04:49:34 PM ---is odom takin any less amount of money by goin wit the heat?
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yes and no. The contract is for less money over a 5 yr period instead of 4 from the Lakers. But the GUARANTEED money is more. The Lakers are only guaranteeing him 3 yrs where he would have 5 from the Heat. ALSO, he wont pay state tax in Miami like he will here. Meaning he will more then likely net more money there.
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He sure as fuck would get an MLE after those 3 years, meaning 42 instead of 34 over a 5 year period. Those state taxes don't make up for that difference. Money is not the reason. He's leaving the current championship team, the biggest market and the glamour of LA for a clear non-contender. Says a lot about how much he likes his teammates, e.g. Kobe.
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LOL @ haters like you thinking this has anything to do with Kobe. If Odom really wanted to leave, why didn't he already? Why is he still trying to negotiate with the Lakers? This ain't about Kobe, Florida, or playing in the East. This is about contracts.
you gon always be my latin queen bitch:
thats what im sayin if odom wanted out cuz of kobe wouldnt he try his best to get out and maybe even take a loss, but why would he want to take a loss when some would say kobe or nah fuck that cuz of kobe is why now odom has a ring period lol
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