Tony Yayo Calls Game Bipolar...G Unit is not acceptin a bitch niggas apology

[Jimmy H.]

Well, I agree with your point that 50 Cent obviously took it as a "slap in the face" that Game seemed to be willing to work with people that 50 Cent had a problem with at the time.  But I disagree with you that it had nothing to do with (at least most of) the members of G-Unit not liking Game.
  As I understand it, Game started out exclusively as an Aftermath artist, not a member of G-Unit.  He was added to G-Unit at Dr. Dre's request, whereas Tony Yayo, Lloyd Banks, and 50 Cent had started the group together.  Game's position in the group could be likened to when Record industry executives used to make "boy bands" by arbitrarily putting several people together and telling them they were a group.  In other words, he had no past relationship with the other members of G-Unit.  At it's best, it was only ever a business relationship.
  Even before the official word broke that 50 had dropped Game from G-Unit, there was rampant reports of confrontations between Game and the other members.  Lloyd Banks, reportedly couldn't stand Game.  
  The point I was trying to make is that in my opinion, that is what ultimately led to Game being dropped from G-Unit.  Maybe Game's willingness to work with 50's "enemies" was the last straw.  But I still think it was misleading, and a bit hypocritical of 50 to present it that way.  If he had just said, "Game was dropped because things just weren't working out with the group," I think that would have been more honest than how he approached it.
  I was only using Eminem's relationship with Fat Joe, Nas, and Jadakiss to illustrate that if it had really been a question of betrayal; and it really went against 50's principles, he would have dissolved his relationship with Eminem as well, regardless of how much money it would have cost him.  

I'm pretty sure that it was Jimmy who put Game with G-Unit, not Dre. I don't think he was ever in the "group" but part of the G-Unit label. This has been discussed before and there really hasn't been any confirmation either way. Young Buck was in the group. Game, I'm not sure about. I don't think 50 ever denied there were problems with Game besides the comment on the radio. He said something in an Vibe article prior to it. I never heard nothing about Lloyd Banks having problems with Game. I know there was a lot of people reading into the fact that Lloyd was the only 1 from G-Unit whose name wasn't in the "thank you" notes in Game's booklet but he shouted him out about a dozen times on the record so I think it was just an error. I think the issues were more with 50. Jimmy put Game over there because 50 had momentum and knew how to build promotion for the G-Unit brand. I think the problem was Game was looking to build his own brand, independent of G-Unit, and presumably went about it in a way that clashed with how 50 wanted to do things. I've never heard 50 Cent say that his exclusive reason for booting Game was the Nas-Jada-Joe comment. People look at The Game thing from a strictly personal standpoint sometime. If you're a business man and you've just made your issues with certain people public and one of your own artists is making public his desire to work with these people, it's damaging to the whole way your business is viewed. It allows Game to profit off the exposure 50 generated for him and appeal to the G-Unit fanbase while at the same time, he can seperate himself from the label and profit off working with people who are opposing them.

In addition to Em being 50's boss, the collabos with the artists mentioned were all mostly done before the beef popped up. If you remember, DJ Green Lantern, Em's DJ at the time made comments to Jadakiss about how the record he made against 50 was hot. Eminem ended up severing ties with him over this so while he may not have a specific issue with Jada, he understood what needed to be done. From a business perspective for anyone associated with Dre or Eminem to say something that could damage 50's credibility is bad for their business and while neither one has stated this publicly, their actions have always seemed to show an understanding of this.

[JohnnyL]

Well, I agree with your point that 50 Cent obviously took it as a "slap in the face" that Game seemed to be willing to work with people that 50 Cent had a problem with at the time.  But I disagree with you that it had nothing to do with (at least most of) the members of G-Unit not liking Game.
  As I understand it, Game started out exclusively as an Aftermath artist, not a member of G-Unit.  He was added to G-Unit at Dr. Dre's request, whereas Tony Yayo, Lloyd Banks, and 50 Cent had started the group together.  Game's position in the group could be likened to when Record industry executives used to make "boy bands" by arbitrarily putting several people together and telling them they were a group.  In other words, he had no past relationship with the other members of G-Unit.  At it's best, it was only ever a business relationship.
  Even before the official word broke that 50 had dropped Game from G-Unit, there was rampant reports of confrontations between Game and the other members.  Lloyd Banks, reportedly couldn't stand Game.  
  The point I was trying to make is that in my opinion, that is what ultimately led to Game being dropped from G-Unit.  Maybe Game's willingness to work with 50's "enemies" was the last straw.  But I still think it was misleading, and a bit hypocritical of 50 to present it that way.  If he had just said, "Game was dropped because things just weren't working out with the group," I think that would have been more honest than how he approached it.
  I was only using Eminem's relationship with Fat Joe, Nas, and Jadakiss to illustrate that if it had really been a question of betrayal; and it really went against 50's principles, he would have dissolved his relationship with Eminem as well, regardless of how much money it would have cost him.  

I'm pretty sure that it was Jimmy who put Game with G-Unit, not Dre. I don't think he was ever in the "group" but part of the G-Unit label. This has been discussed before and there really hasn't been any confirmation either way. Young Buck was in the group. Game, I'm not sure about. I don't think 50 ever denied there were problems with Game besides the comment on the radio. He said something in an Vibe article prior to it. I never heard nothing about Lloyd Banks having problems with Game. I know there was a lot of people reading into the fact that Lloyd was the only 1 from G-Unit whose name wasn't in the "thank you" notes in Game's booklet but he shouted him out about a dozen times on the record so I think it was just an error. I think the issues were more with 50. Jimmy put Game over there because 50 had momentum and knew how to build promotion for the G-Unit brand. I think the problem was Game was looking to build his own brand, independent of G-Unit, and presumably went about it in a way that clashed with how 50 wanted to do things. I've never heard 50 Cent say that his exclusive reason for booting Game was the Nas-Jada-Joe comment. People look at The Game thing from a strictly personal standpoint sometime. If you're a business man and you've just made your issues with certain people public and one of your own artists is making public his desire to work with these people, it's damaging to the whole way your business is viewed. It allows Game to profit off the exposure 50 generated for him and appeal to the G-Unit fanbase while at the same time, he can seperate himself from the label and profit off working with people who are opposing them.

In addition to Em being 50's boss, the collabos with the artists mentioned were all mostly done before the beef popped up. If you remember, DJ Green Lantern, Em's DJ at the time made comments to Jadakiss about how the record he made against 50 was hot. Eminem ended up severing ties with him over this so while he may not have a specific issue with Jada, he understood what needed to be done. From a business perspective for anyone associated with Dre or Eminem to say something that could damage 50's credibility is bad for their business and while neither one has stated this publicly, their actions have always seemed to show an understanding of this.

 All good points. In all honesty, you may be right about it being Jimmy Iovine rather than Dr. Dre who moved Game over to the G-Unit label.  I had always heard it was Dr. Dre, but I don't have anything substantial to back that up, so it may have been Jimmy Iovine.
 Regarding the situation between Game and Lloyd Banks, dubcnn had conducted an interview with 50 shortly before his and Game's falling out.  To his credit, 50 Cent addressed it about as fairly as I thought he could have at the time.  It was a bit of a "diplomatic" answer, but he did in some measure acknowledge that the problem was there.  I'm paraphrasing, but he said something to the effect of The Game and Lloyd Banks worked together and that was it.  They didn't really need to have any other relationship, outside of working together in the group.
 Lloyd Banks made his feelings about Game public in a freestyle diss aimed at him on Rap City, shortly after the first time 50 Cent and Game had attempted to reconcile their
differences.  I believe that freestyle was the first of the back-and-forth diss tracks that both sides leveled at each other for what would end up being quite a while.
 I believe the issue of Game's dismissal from the group for his comments about Nas and Fat Joe, was addressed in an interview that Hot 97 Radio Station (I believe) conducted with 50 Cent, which was in fact where 50 first announced that Game was dropped from the group.  But I agree that that issue wasn't exclusively the reason Game was dropped.  In fact, I think that that particular incident was used more as an excuse to just go ahead and get rid of Game, as I think most of the other members of G-Unit had wanted to do for quite a while, anyway.  I think that personal turbulence from within the group is mostly what would account for Game being dropped.  Although you may also have a point that Game's ambition in starting his own label may have been a factor (as I believe it was with Young Buck).
 As I said before, when you have a situation where three people basically have founded a group together, they're in all likelihood going to have more invested in the group than someone who was added to it by a record label executive.  This is just speculation on my part, but I think there may have been some resentment about that even from the beginning.