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Why America Is A Great Country
closetothalimit:
id agree with entertainment and technology... (even though id aruge some of the best films arent american, it does have the biggest entertainment industry)
in your rhetorical questions within the medience section, the reason non of the countries are making great developments in the medical world is mainly funding, nothing to do with ability. the countries you mentioned are all poor, mainly due to exploitation by the west, im sure if they had as much funding as america they could make just as many developments.
in the creating wealth system, wasnt it america's economy that collapsed thus leading to the rest of the world, thus giving hitler a chance to sezie power in germany.
in human achievements, granted achievements were made but this are just put down for all the bad shit america has done. the only reason america put a man on the moon in 1969 was because the soviet union was going to beat them
foriegn aid is the less America can do following world war 2 after the fucked up shit they did.
I really doubt freedom, i mean thats just bullshit. maybe in some areas like film and tv where they dont actually have a censorship board like other nations. but consider for a moment the years leading up to the Vietnam war. They supported this bloke called Diem as the Democratic South Vietnam President right? to stop communism from spreading. But Diem wasnt democratic, he rigged elections, eliminated all political oppenents, placed peasents into Strategic Hamlets or concertration camps to seperate them from communism, surpressed buddhists so much they started burning themselves as america watched with a smile. diem was a dictator, not as extreme as hitler but still a dictator. so the line "Communist Vietnam are among the nefarious states we sought to prevent from increasing their totalitarian control over others" is fuckin bullshit. and this was before all the protesting shit, 3 years before. So tell me America was all about freedom then.
and communist north vietnam only seek unification with south vietnam. the communist were gonna allow a election to decide on democracy or communism as the Geneva Conference said. but it was the democratic south that knock the elections back. Communist vietnam never wanted to control others. get your facts right. a terriost group started the civil war that america got involved with. get your facts right
as for america liberating nazi germany. i believe if u check ur historical books, though america contributed, the soviet union's red army achieved that task.
you cant just consider the positives without noting america's negatives
- dropping a nuke on civillians in japan
- dropping napalm on vietnam peasents
- illegal bombing of cambodia that eventually resulted, not directly but eventually, pol pot coming to power and killing 1.3 million people.
- killing of civillians during war. e.g. My Lai Massacre
- capital punishment
- racism and homophobia in southern states, some states still make homosexuality against the law.
- pressing their ideology on any nation they can, believeing that it is the the ideology, instead of just an ideology.
- motivating and breeding some of the worst criminals our world has seen.
i dont want no beef, this is just why i dont think america isnt all that great, just one view point
if ur going to talk about Presidents ruining your reputation
talk about nixon (illegal bombing of cambodia, laos), johnson (for going into vietnam at all), bush (for just being a redneck). clinton is no where as embarrassing as these three.
Pillow:
one of the better posts from C walker. america is a great country
Kill:
--- Quote from: Rain on October 26, 2002, 09:47:11 PM ---id agree with entertainment and technology... (even though id aruge some of the best films arent american, it does have the biggest entertainment industry)
in your rhetorical questions within the medience section, the reason non of the countries are making great developments in the medical world is mainly funding, nothing to do with ability. the countries you mentioned are all poor, mainly due to exploitation by the west, im sure if they had as much funding as america they could make just as many developments.
in the creating wealth system, wasnt it america's economy that collapsed thus leading to the rest of the world, thus giving hitler a chance to sezie power in germany.
in human achievements, granted achievements were made but this are just put down for all the bad shit america has done. the only reason america put a man on the moon in 1969 was because the soviet union was going to beat them
foriegn aid is the less America can do following world war 2 after the fucked up shit they did.
I really doubt freedom, i mean thats just bullshit. maybe in some areas like film and tv where they dont actually have a censorship board like other nations. but consider for a moment the years leading up to the Vietnam war. They supported this bloke called Diem as the Democratic South Vietnam right? to stop communism from spreading. But Diem wasnt democratic, he rigged elections, eliminated all political oppenents, placed peasents into Strategic Hamlets or concertration camps to seperate them from communism, surpressed buddhists so much they started burning themselves as america watched with a smile. diem was a dictator, not as extreme as hitler but still a dictator. so the line "Communist Vietnam are among the nefarious states we sought to prevent from increasing their totalitarian control over others" is fuckin bullshit. and this was before all the protesting shit, 3 years before. So tell me America was all about freedom then.
and communist north vietnam only seek unification with south vietnam. the communist were gonna allow a election to decide on democracy or communism as the Geneva Conference. but it was the democratic south that knock the elections back. Communist vietnam never wanted to control others. get your facts right. a terriost group started the civil war that america got involved with. get your facts right
as for america liberating nazi germany. i believe if u check ur historical books, though america contributed, the soviet union's red army achieved that task.
you cant just consider the positives without noting america's negatives
- dropping a nuke on civillians in japan
- dropping napalm on vietnam peasents
- illegal bombing of cambodia that eventually resulted, not directly but eventually, pol pot coming to power and killing 1.3 million people.
- killing of civillians during war. e.g. My Lai Massacre
- capital punishment
- racism and homophobia in southern states, some states still make homosexuality against the law.
- pressing their ideology on any nation they can, believeing that it is the the ideology, instead of just an ideology.
- motivating and breeding some of the worst criminals our world has seen.
i dont want no beef, this is just why i dont think america isnt all that great, just one view point
if ur going to talk about Presidents ruining your reputation
talk about nixon (illegal bombing of cambodia, laos), johnson (for going into vietnam at all), bush (for just being a redneck). clinton is no where as embarrassing as these three.
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Good post, I agree
Siberian Wolf:
Overall a good post. America is the greatest country, thats pretty clear. But the author was blinded by his patriotism and I see alotta holes in the post. In every section. Let me break it down:
10. Despite Scent of a Woman, The Godfather, Forrest Gump etc., most of American movie pictures are dumb, promoting violence, bad sense of humor, pornography or hate towards other nations. I don't know about other places, but here in Russia our own movies take almost the same percentage in movie theatres as American.
9. Immigrants come to USA not because they love America, they just need more money. Immigrants are mot a subject of pride, they're a problem in America, I think.
8. The television, the airplane and the radio were invented by Russians. So the author operates with some bullshit, too.
7. The only American product popular here in Russia is Coca Cola. An American manufacturer has never been a stereotype of a perfect one. It's usually a German or a Japanese.
6. Death to America is chanted by those who are being bombed by the USA. They dont actually think about the help USA did to them before.
5. Well now, Russians put the first man in space, built the Volgo-Baltic and Volgo-Don Canals (a lot longer than the Panama Canal), invented the hydrogen bomb, so at least Americans are not the only ones.
4. Pure bullshit. Nazis were defeated by Soviet Union. Soviet Union dissolved by itself. And American empire rules the whole world, becuz it can bomb any country at any time without asking anybody.
3. Transplantology was started by Russian doctor Dorokhov. The immunity was discovered by Russian scientist Mechnikov. Conditional reflexes were discovered by Russian scientis Pavlov. You're not the only ones here, too.
2. Democracy, huh? So you say George W Bush was elected by the majority of your citizens? I highly doubt that. In democracy, Al Gore should have become a president.
1. Freedom, huh? Who made reservations for Indians? Who made ghettoes for blacks? Freedom in America is not for everybody.
All in all, Dan Flynn is right. It's a great pleasure to be an American. But Americans dont' know anything positive about the rest of the world, and they dont really want to.
Maestro Minded:
most people outside usa knows the truth.... americans are trapped in a glasshouse and have no opportunity to cee how the rest of the world is..
most of yall who claims that america, the country were you cant enter a hospital unless you got money, the country that nukes 2 cities with innocent in japan, the country who slaughtered men, kids and women (after raping them) in Vietnam, the country that kills crimimal as punishment, the country that doesnt allow people to vist cuba and iraq, the country that killed malcom x and other leaders, the country that freezed the bank accounts of 2 totaly innocent men in sweden during 1 year because their bank had connections with al quaida, the country enslaved millions of black muslims from afrrica and forced them to chance religion and name, the country, the country that have george bush as president... ... ... ...
have probably not seen much of the outside world
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