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did you guys read where eli is making more then payton?
Chamillitary Click:
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--- Quote from: Shallow on August 08, 2009, 11:20:57 PM ---Brady might be the best QBs to have on a team like the 85 Bears, 2000 Ravens, or 2002 Bucs. He knows he isn't good enough to make certain throws and usually just doesn't attempt them. But he'd be terrible on a bad team. Then again he has posted at least two embarrassing red zone INTs in crucial playoff games.
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he's also better than Peyton when it comes to "comebacks" in the final minutes, always a nice thing to have.
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No he's not. Peyton is about to break the record for 4th quarter comebacks. Brady's not even close. You won't be able to find many, if any, 2 minute drill comebacks by Brady in crucial situations. All those famous drives they brag about was when the game was already tied, the pressure is off. In fact in the last two playoff losses by New England it came down to Brady with the ball with no time left, but enough time to make some plays, and both times he choked. Against Indy in 06 he threw a stupid INT, and against the Giants in the Superbowl he had 3 timeouts and instead of trying to move ther ball closer he wasted 3 stupid long bomb attempts abnd lost the game. The funny thing is that Randy was open with room to spare and if Brady had Manning's arm the Giants would have lost that SB, but Moss had to slow down to adjust, like he always does with Brady's bombs, and the pass was broken up. And both of those failed drives rest on Brady's shoulders. No dropped passes, or bad calls, just bad throws and bad decisions.
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so one drive in a superbowl cancels out two other drives in other superbowls where he drove to win them?
& Peyton can have 1000 4th quarter comebacks in the regular season, i mean, his legacy is already sealed if he retired tomorrow, but he has one ring. :-X
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No, two drives where he needed to score or lose the game, vs 3 or 4 drives where he was tied already. It's not the same kind of pressure when it's do or die. I question now how calm Brady would have been in those three Superbowls his defense allowed the opponents to score earlier and Brady now had to come back and win.
Yeah, Peyton has 1 ring, Brady has three, Bradshaw has 4, and Bart Starr has 5. The difference is if you switch teams Peyton has more than 3, 4 and 5, and Brady, BRadshaw, and Starr all have zero.
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if we're going to questions hypothetical things, i question whether Peyton would be good at all on a bad team or if he didn't have an awesome RB to disguise the PA.
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We all know how good James was when he didn't have Peyton, and what makes Addai so special? I almost wish Polian wasn't such an idiot in '98 because if they kept Faulk Indy almost certainly would have been SB champs the next year when Faulk was the key to St. Louis's success. Add a few more rings to that team because Peyton would finally have another real playmaker on the team and we'd neevr have this discussion.
You make it seem like Peyton played with Payton or Sanders.
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Addai is a top fantasy RB pick, he gets that from the stats he puts in during the season, there is no science involved; he is just a good running back.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on August 09, 2009, 11:03:43 AM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on August 09, 2009, 11:00:40 AM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on August 09, 2009, 10:53:36 AM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on August 09, 2009, 10:39:52 AM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on August 09, 2009, 09:47:49 AM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on August 09, 2009, 09:28:23 AM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on August 09, 2009, 09:18:48 AM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on August 08, 2009, 11:20:57 PM ---Brady might be the best QBs to have on a team like the 85 Bears, 2000 Ravens, or 2002 Bucs. He knows he isn't good enough to make certain throws and usually just doesn't attempt them. But he'd be terrible on a bad team. Then again he has posted at least two embarrassing red zone INTs in crucial playoff games.
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he's also better than Peyton when it comes to "comebacks" in the final minutes, always a nice thing to have.
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No he's not. Peyton is about to break the record for 4th quarter comebacks. Brady's not even close. You won't be able to find many, if any, 2 minute drill comebacks by Brady in crucial situations. All those famous drives they brag about was when the game was already tied, the pressure is off. In fact in the last two playoff losses by New England it came down to Brady with the ball with no time left, but enough time to make some plays, and both times he choked. Against Indy in 06 he threw a stupid INT, and against the Giants in the Superbowl he had 3 timeouts and instead of trying to move ther ball closer he wasted 3 stupid long bomb attempts abnd lost the game. The funny thing is that Randy was open with room to spare and if Brady had Manning's arm the Giants would have lost that SB, but Moss had to slow down to adjust, like he always does with Brady's bombs, and the pass was broken up. And both of those failed drives rest on Brady's shoulders. No dropped passes, or bad calls, just bad throws and bad decisions.
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so one drive in a superbowl cancels out two other drives in other superbowls where he drove to win them?
& Peyton can have 1000 4th quarter comebacks in the regular season, i mean, his legacy is already sealed if he retired tomorrow, but he has one ring. :-X
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No, two drives where he needed to score or lose the game, vs 3 or 4 drives where he was tied already. It's not the same kind of pressure when it's do or die. I question now how calm Brady would have been in those three Superbowls his defense allowed the opponents to score earlier and Brady now had to come back and win.
Yeah, Peyton has 1 ring, Brady has three, Bradshaw has 4, and Bart Starr has 5. The difference is if you switch teams Peyton has more than 3, 4 and 5, and Brady, BRadshaw, and Starr all have zero.
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if we're going to questions hypothetical things, i question whether Peyton would be good at all on a bad team or if he didn't have an awesome RB to disguise the PA.
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We all know how good James was when he didn't have Peyton, and what makes Addai so special? I almost wish Polian wasn't such an idiot in '98 because if they kept Faulk Indy almost certainly would have been SB champs the next year when Faulk was the key to St. Louis's success. Add a few more rings to that team because Peyton would finally have another real playmaker on the team and we'd neevr have this discussion.
You make it seem like Peyton played with Payton or Sanders.
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Addai is a top fantasy RB pick, he gets that from the stats he puts in during the season, there is no science involved; he is just a good running back.
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Addai is a 1000 yard back. That's good, but not he's not a full time back and 1500 yards isn't even a possibility the way it looks now. Edge had 2 years on top of the RB pack and 4 years over 1500 when he was playing with Manning. He goes to Arizona after having one of his best years and takes a big money deal and then drops almost 400 yards on the ground. Two years later they don't even want him anymore. Give me a break.
You're better off trying to use the Harrison example, but Peyt can do 25/4000 with out him, and he did.
Chamillitary Click:
^at this point Reggie is better than Marvin & Dallas Clark is a top TE. ;)
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on August 09, 2009, 11:45:59 AM ---^at this point Reggie is better than Marvin & Dallas Clark is a top TE. ;)
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I just wish he had Moss and Welker instead.
Chamillitary Click:
i'm kind of getting off my point, i know Peyton is better than Brady, but you're just not showin' Brady the slightest bit of love.
Pats don't have the rings without Brady, it's almost fact.
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