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--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 21, 2009, 04:21:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: LooN3y on August 16, 2009, 04:19:35 PM ---scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.


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true enough. But religion deals largely with a subject that people are too afraid of to admit that they dont know the answer.  Anything else you would look at logically and not believe it until it is proven to you.  To use the example I used earlier, a scientist couldnt PROVE to you that there are not invisible rats running around your room right now.  Is that a reason to believe they are there?

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daygo... hommie... you're confusing me... can you explain that better

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--- Quote from: ikke on August 21, 2009, 07:42:15 PM ---Does god have to be a concience/entity?

Can't god be the universe?
The force that keeps everything working?

That would make allot more sense

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that makes sense... but religion is a cooler way of reppin that

.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:

--- Quote from: LIGHTS on August 22, 2009, 11:34:45 AM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 21, 2009, 04:21:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: LooN3y on August 16, 2009, 04:19:35 PM ---scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.


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true enough. But religion deals largely with a subject that people are too afraid of to admit that they dont know the answer.  Anything else you would look at logically and not believe it until it is proven to you.  To use the example I used earlier, a scientist couldnt PROVE to you that there are not invisible rats running around your room right now.  Is that a reason to believe they are there?

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daygo... hommie... you're confusing me... can you explain that better

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What Im saying is that there are alot of people who are too afraid to simply say they dont know what happens after death. Its scary to a lot of people to not know, or to think that when we die...its over completely.  That same fear can make a typically logical person think illogically.  They rationalize an argument that would not apply to any other similar set of circumstances.  They say that its ok to believe in God and Heaven and Hell, etc. because although you can not prove its true...you also cant prove its not true.  The same could be said for my example of the invisible rats.  I could tell you they are there and they protect you and have a master plan for what will happen in all of our lives....and you cant prove to me that they arent. The fact that you cant prove to me that they ARENT there isnt a good enough reason to believe that they are....its illogical.  Same with the idea of an invisible man in the sky that watches over us. IMO.

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--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 22, 2009, 11:54:17 AM ---
--- Quote from: LIGHTS on August 22, 2009, 11:34:45 AM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 21, 2009, 04:21:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: LooN3y on August 16, 2009, 04:19:35 PM ---scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.


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true enough. But religion deals largely with a subject that people are too afraid of to admit that they dont know the answer.  Anything else you would look at logically and not believe it until it is proven to you.  To use the example I used earlier, a scientist couldnt PROVE to you that there are not invisible rats running around your room right now.  Is that a reason to believe they are there?

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daygo... hommie... you're confusing me... can you explain that better

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What Im saying is that there are alot of people who are too afraid to simply say they dont know what happens after death. Its scary to a lot of people to not know, or to think that when we die...its over completely.  That same fear can make a typically logical person think illogically.  They rationalize an argument that would not apply to any other similar set of circumstances.  They say that its ok to believe in God and Heaven and Hell, etc. because although you can not prove its true...you also cant prove its not true.  The same could be said for my example of the invisible rats.  I could tell you they are there and they protect you and have a master plan for what will happen in all of our lives....and you cant prove to me that they arent. The fact that you cant prove to me that they ARENT there isnt a good enough reason to believe that they are....its illogical.  Same with the idea of an invisible man in the sky that watches over us. IMO.

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look lots of people such as yourself... you make logical sense with stuff like that...
however i still choose to believe that God is a higher power... and it just makes my life easier...
all my family since 301 have been CHRISTIANS

.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:

--- Quote from: LIGHTS on August 22, 2009, 12:25:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 22, 2009, 11:54:17 AM ---
--- Quote from: LIGHTS on August 22, 2009, 11:34:45 AM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 21, 2009, 04:21:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: LooN3y on August 16, 2009, 04:19:35 PM ---scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.


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true enough. But religion deals largely with a subject that people are too afraid of to admit that they dont know the answer.  Anything else you would look at logically and not believe it until it is proven to you.  To use the example I used earlier, a scientist couldnt PROVE to you that there are not invisible rats running around your room right now.  Is that a reason to believe they are there?

--- End quote ---
daygo... hommie... you're confusing me... can you explain that better

--- End quote ---

What Im saying is that there are alot of people who are too afraid to simply say they dont know what happens after death. Its scary to a lot of people to not know, or to think that when we die...its over completely.  That same fear can make a typically logical person think illogically.  They rationalize an argument that would not apply to any other similar set of circumstances.  They say that its ok to believe in God and Heaven and Hell, etc. because although you can not prove its true...you also cant prove its not true.  The same could be said for my example of the invisible rats.  I could tell you they are there and they protect you and have a master plan for what will happen in all of our lives....and you cant prove to me that they arent. The fact that you cant prove to me that they ARENT there isnt a good enough reason to believe that they are....its illogical.  Same with the idea of an invisible man in the sky that watches over us. IMO.

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look lots of people such as yourself... you make logical sense with stuff like that...
however i still choose to believe that God is a higher power... and it just makes my life easier...
all my family since 301 have been CHRISTIANS

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Thats cool.  Im not tryin to convince you to NOT believe in God or your religion.  The way I look at things is, whatever makes you better as a person...do it.  If you believed in a pet rock...but for some reason you were a better person for it, do that shit.  I think for some people, religion or their belief in God helps them...for some, it hurts them.  Likewise, my belief that organized religion is full of shit doesnt hurt me.  There could be a "God" or there could not be...none of us know.

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