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Do You Love Life & The World? Why Do Christians say that its a sin?
Lunatic:
I'm a Christian and love life to the fullest.
QuietTruth:
The world's a beautiful place, it's the unfortunate people and happenings in it that bring it down. Unfortunately......unnnnnnnnfortunately.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: E-Crazy on September 14, 2009, 03:13:30 PM ---I love living, I love my friends, my family, hanging out, doing fun things. Well, according to some Christians I had a discussion with on Facebook, I'm a Sinner and I'm prob. going to go to hell. Why you may ask, well they quoted this bible quote to me:
--- Quote ---1 John 2:15-17 Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For everything in the world-the cravings of sinful man, the lust of his eyes and the boasting of what he has and does-c...omes not from the Father but from the world. The world and its desires pass away, but the man who does the will of God lives forever
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That Bible verse has a deeper meaning than your limited, abbreviated intellect can comprehend. I will try to explain but I seriously doubt you will get it.
Let me put the verse in context for you. See, the Creator is perfect. The world is perfect. The Universe is perfect. The solar system is perfect and the planets move in a precise orbit, and if the sun were an inch closer to the Earth we would burn to death and if it were an inch farther away we would freeze to death. So there are NO MISTAKES in the creation. It is not possible that the Solar Sytem could move about in such grace and perfection unless this world too, was also an example of the Universes and the perfection that exists in all it contains.
With that background, and that context, you can now understand the verse. Just as the Universe, Galaxy and Solar System and space is perfection, everything in Earth is also an example of God's perfection. So it is only because of our flawed intellect that we can view something as imperfect. Once you have grasped that meaning you have reached the level that Muslims call Kun Fee Yakun (Be and it is) Qur'an, the Buddhists call Nirvana, and the Christians call being "saved". The verse is trying to encourage the believer to take his eyes off of the petty highs and lows that exist within his own limited desires, and instead find eternal freedom and grace in the perfection that is the Creator.
...now I'm not a Christian, I don't read the Bible... but if your truly interested in understanding that verse then you must look more deeply into it than you are.
The Overfiend:
...I'm down here with it since the whole thing began!
I've nurtured every
sensation man has ever been inspired to have!
I cared about what he wanted and I never judged him, why? Because I'm a fan of man!
...I'm a humanist. Maybe the last humanist.
http://www.youtube.com/v/RGR4SFOimlk&hl=en&fs=1&
ThaRealSupreme:
That verse is not talking about the same kind of love for the world that you're speaking of and I seriously doubt the person who quoted the scripture actually knew what it meant either. Don't trip.....live life and love it! Can't nobody tell you if you're going to hell or not because they're not God but they won't quote the scripture that says judging is a sin tho.
I can explain it you if you'd like but the verse has a deeper meaning to it.
--- Quote from: E-Crazy on September 14, 2009, 03:13:30 PM ---I love living, I love my friends, my family, hanging out, doing fun things. Well, according to some Christians I had a discussion with on Facebook, I'm a Sinner and I'm prob. going to go to hell. Why you may ask, well they quoted this bible quote to me:
--- Quote ---1 John 2:15-17 Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For everything in the world-the cravings of sinful man, the lust of his eyes and the boasting of what he has and does-c...omes not from the Father but from the world. The world and its desires pass away, but the man who does the will of God lives forever
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I had a whole on debate on facebook with some crazed religious dude, I don't know if you need to log in to see it but here is the link: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/erikmorse85?v=feed&story_fbid=126956602956&ref=mf
and here is a link to the crazy dude's facebook, he's those religious guys at your college yelling at you that your a sinner, think wesboro baptist church - http://www.facebook.com/SteventheBerean
I personally believe that if god created the earth, why not love it? why not love what he made? why not be happy with everything around you?
I didn't know it was such a big problem, lol.
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