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Quote from: Ridah662 on September 26, 2009, 08:55:59 AMQuote from: Karma To Burn on September 26, 2009, 08:42:30 AMQuote from: IF NOT ME THEN WHO on September 24, 2009, 09:24:32 AMkings rise and fall, so to say pac is still the king is silly, and he was imported but he did hold this coast down like no one else ever has. its a touchy subject but it is what it is. pac isnt the king at the momentREAD the title of the thread Pac WAS really The King of the Westfuck that, kings don't stop being kings just cause they pass.....pac will alwayz b tha king of the west & east as well, the whole eastcoast gotta swallow that no matter what.....especially 301 baltimore, maryland Eh, 2pac is one of the greats, and a legend on the west, but he can't truly be called that cause of a few things.1. He didn't impact anything in rap until Me Against The World.2. All Eyez, sold out to The G-Funk Sound that was hot at the time. Strange how Lethal Injection was Chastise, yet All Eyez gets nothing but praise, despite a entire second disk of Filler?3. The Fact that unlike Dr. Dre or even Snoop, his First Album wasn't innovated, didn't become a major critical success that truly affected how California Rap grew.Basically he didn't get huge until Me Against The World, eventually becoming huger with All Eyez, and Reaching a Crucial point with Makaveli Post-Death.So, Is he the king? No, other artist are more deserving then him, given they helped build West Coast Rap into what it was. But people keep buying into the hype that he was always a success as he was near his death. When in reality he was some what notable, and his Film Carrier had given him more attention then the average rapper, but with Dr. Dre's The Chronic, Snoops Doggystyle, Ice Cubes own carrier and his own films. He basically was stuck in the backround for awhile. Me Against The World and Makaveli is were he left his mark in the industry.
Quote from: Karma To Burn on September 26, 2009, 08:42:30 AMQuote from: IF NOT ME THEN WHO on September 24, 2009, 09:24:32 AMkings rise and fall, so to say pac is still the king is silly, and he was imported but he did hold this coast down like no one else ever has. its a touchy subject but it is what it is. pac isnt the king at the momentREAD the title of the thread Pac WAS really The King of the Westfuck that, kings don't stop being kings just cause they pass.....pac will alwayz b tha king of the west & east as well, the whole eastcoast gotta swallow that no matter what.....especially 301 baltimore, maryland
Quote from: IF NOT ME THEN WHO on September 24, 2009, 09:24:32 AMkings rise and fall, so to say pac is still the king is silly, and he was imported but he did hold this coast down like no one else ever has. its a touchy subject but it is what it is. pac isnt the king at the momentREAD the title of the thread Pac WAS really The King of the West
kings rise and fall, so to say pac is still the king is silly, and he was imported but he did hold this coast down like no one else ever has. its a touchy subject but it is what it is. pac isnt the king at the moment
Sorry but i couldnt agree less.Saying All eyez on me didnt effect the industry?Please.The first double album in rap history.Listen to albums that came out that same year and compare the production.All eyez on me still sounds fresh today where as everything else feels dated that year.The second disc had great tracks I dont where you get filler from.Wonda why they call u bitch is filler?Shorty wanna be a thug?The second disc is better then 95 percent of albums that come out today.
And what has dre done for the west in the last lets say ten years?NOTHING.Even game would have just been another artist dropped never to be heard from again if it werent for 50 cent.Dre himself had his career saved by eminem.Lets face it before eminem came along dre was going nowhere fast.
Give me a break game sold because of 50 cent not because of dre.G unit was the hottest thing in the industry at that point and games first two singles featured him.Thats why he sold.Lke I said if 50 didnt take game in,game would just be another joe beast.Like it or not eminem made dre relevant again.Aftermath compilation was a flop commerically and musically as was The firm.Dre seemed to be fading away to obscurity when jimmy iovine found eminem.Most of the slim shady lp was produced by the bass brothers,not dre.What artist from the west has dre helped in the last ten years?Xzibit was already a name when dre started working with him.2001 was full of people dre had already worked with.The only new name it produced was hittman and we all know where he went,the same place game would have gone without 50.
Eminem is from the Westside... the MidWest. Sounds like Dre helped the West to me.