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Quote from: No Compute on September 25, 2009, 03:28:30 PMQuote from: ikke on September 25, 2009, 03:25:08 PM1995 Classics:GZA - Liquid SwordsDogg Pound - Dogg FoodMack 10 - selftitledRaekwon - Only Built For Cuban LinxODB - Return to the 36 Chambers.Tupac - Me against the worldE-40 - In A Major WayBig L - Lifestylez ov da poor & DangerousMob Deep -InfamousBTNH - E1999 EternalOnys - All We Got Iz usCoolio Gangsters ParadiseEAZY-E - Straight off tha streets of compton13 in 1 year, some are up for debate but that's atleast a classic every months, and you guys are saying there have bern no or a handfull classics in the alst 10 years while there were atleast 12 in 1 year in 1995...I doubt you would find a lot of people who consider all of those albums you listed as classics.probally atleast half, which would mean a classic every 2 months which still proves my point Hack how can you list OB4CLII as a classic but not the first part?
Quote from: ikke on September 25, 2009, 03:25:08 PM1995 Classics:GZA - Liquid SwordsDogg Pound - Dogg FoodMack 10 - selftitledRaekwon - Only Built For Cuban LinxODB - Return to the 36 Chambers.Tupac - Me against the worldE-40 - In A Major WayBig L - Lifestylez ov da poor & DangerousMob Deep -InfamousBTNH - E1999 EternalOnys - All We Got Iz usCoolio Gangsters ParadiseEAZY-E - Straight off tha streets of compton13 in 1 year, some are up for debate but that's atleast a classic every months, and you guys are saying there have bern no or a handfull classics in the alst 10 years while there were atleast 12 in 1 year in 1995...I doubt you would find a lot of people who consider all of those albums you listed as classics.
1995 Classics:GZA - Liquid SwordsDogg Pound - Dogg FoodMack 10 - selftitledRaekwon - Only Built For Cuban LinxODB - Return to the 36 Chambers.Tupac - Me against the worldE-40 - In A Major WayBig L - Lifestylez ov da poor & DangerousMob Deep -InfamousBTNH - E1999 EternalOnys - All We Got Iz usCoolio Gangsters ParadiseEAZY-E - Straight off tha streets of compton13 in 1 year, some are up for debate but that's atleast a classic every months, and you guys are saying there have bern no or a handfull classics in the alst 10 years while there were atleast 12 in 1 year in 1995...
In terms of influencing the game I'd say OB4CL >>> any of those other albums from 95.
Quote from: ikke on September 25, 2009, 03:33:23 PMQuote from: No Compute on September 25, 2009, 03:28:30 PMQuote from: ikke on September 25, 2009, 03:25:08 PM1995 Classics:GZA - Liquid SwordsDogg Pound - Dogg FoodMack 10 - selftitledRaekwon - Only Built For Cuban LinxODB - Return to the 36 Chambers.Tupac - Me against the worldE-40 - In A Major WayBig L - Lifestylez ov da poor & DangerousMob Deep -InfamousBTNH - E1999 EternalOnys - All We Got Iz usCoolio Gangsters ParadiseEAZY-E - Straight off tha streets of compton13 in 1 year, some are up for debate but that's atleast a classic every months, and you guys are saying there have bern no or a handfull classics in the alst 10 years while there were atleast 12 in 1 year in 1995...I doubt you would find a lot of people who consider all of those albums you listed as classics.probally atleast half, which would mean a classic every 2 months which still proves my point Hack how can you list OB4CLII as a classic but not the first part?those 5 CDs i selected were MEGA classicsOB$CL is a classic but not a mega classic lol
Quote from: M Dogg on September 25, 2009, 09:35:58 PMEminem Show I think brought Hip-Hop to a level in mainstream America were you knew REAL hip-hop could be accepted, not just the Dr. Dre pumped Eminem sound.I know I'm going to catch some flack for this...... But to call that piece of shit jEM jEM binks real hip hop is His shit is so beyond Hip Hop.... some shit.... well I can´t relate,it's soooo far away from what I know as Hip Hop.
Eminem Show I think brought Hip-Hop to a level in mainstream America were you knew REAL hip-hop could be accepted, not just the Dr. Dre pumped Eminem sound.
Quote from: M Dogg on September 25, 2009, 10:07:23 PMQuote from: Vader on September 25, 2009, 09:47:28 PMQuote from: M Dogg on September 25, 2009, 09:35:58 PMEminem Show I think brought Hip-Hop to a level in mainstream America were you knew REAL hip-hop could be accepted, not just the Dr. Dre pumped Eminem sound.I know I'm going to catch some flack for this...... But to call that piece of shit real hip hop is .......well I can´t relate,it's soooo far away from what I know as Hip Hop.You can't relate, you can't relate. Don't make it less Hip-Hop, nor does it make your opinion less relevant. But dude had more skill than anyone in the decade not name Nas, and he was the highest selling artist in the decade. You can't relate, fine, but his shit is real Hip-Hop.skills yes,a very,very talented cat.hip hop NO!!!!!!!!some rap rock hybrid yes.... that the white jackass generation can relate to.... fine. but please don't mix that crap up with hip hop.now let me do a backspin and hit up a train while listening to soul sonic force that's hip hop
Quote from: Vader on September 25, 2009, 09:47:28 PMQuote from: M Dogg on September 25, 2009, 09:35:58 PMEminem Show I think brought Hip-Hop to a level in mainstream America were you knew REAL hip-hop could be accepted, not just the Dr. Dre pumped Eminem sound.I know I'm going to catch some flack for this...... But to call that piece of shit real hip hop is .......well I can´t relate,it's soooo far away from what I know as Hip Hop.You can't relate, you can't relate. Don't make it less Hip-Hop, nor does it make your opinion less relevant. But dude had more skill than anyone in the decade not name Nas, and he was the highest selling artist in the decade. You can't relate, fine, but his shit is real Hip-Hop.
Quote from: M Dogg on September 25, 2009, 09:35:58 PMEminem Show I think brought Hip-Hop to a level in mainstream America were you knew REAL hip-hop could be accepted, not just the Dr. Dre pumped Eminem sound.I know I'm going to catch some flack for this...... But to call that piece of shit real hip hop is .......well I can´t relate,it's soooo far away from what I know as Hip Hop.
Quote from: M Dogg on September 25, 2009, 10:40:02 PMQuote from: Vader on September 25, 2009, 10:16:25 PMQuote from: M Dogg on September 25, 2009, 10:07:23 PMQuote from: Vader on September 25, 2009, 09:47:28 PMQuote from: M Dogg on September 25, 2009, 09:35:58 PMEminem Show I think brought Hip-Hop to a level in mainstream America were you knew REAL hip-hop could be accepted, not just the Dr. Dre pumped Eminem sound.I know I'm going to catch some flack for this...... But to call that piece of shit real hip hop is .......well I can't relate,it's soooo far away from what I know as Hip Hop.You can't relate, you can't relate. Don't make it less Hip-Hop, nor does it make your opinion less relevant. But dude had more skill than anyone in the decade not name Nas, and he was the highest selling artist in the decade. You can't relate, fine, but his shit is real Hip-Hop.skills yes,a very,very talented cat.hip hop NO!!!!!!!!some rap rock hybrid yes.... that the white jackass generation can relate to.... fine. but please don't mix that crap up with hip hop.now let me do a backspin and hit up a train while listening to soul sonic force that's hip hop LOLThere use to be a rule, no biting allow. Another words, don't bit others style, be original. THAT'S HIP-HOP! It's what make Cypress Hill as hip-hop as Onyx, and as hip-hop as Warren G and as hip-hop as Outkast and as hip-hop as Kanye West, and as hip-hop as Wu-Tang and as hip-hop as the Furious 5 and as hip-hop as Ice Cube and as hip-hop as Pete Rock and CL Smooth. Hip-Hop takes from everything, there was rock in Run DMC's sound, and there was so funk in what Dr. Dre was doing, and there was some old soulful R&B in what Kanye's doing. It's all hip-hop, the is no set style other than no biting allowed.True... but Cypress,Cube etc. ain't Hip Hop either.They do gangster rap,but that shit is still closer to "Hip Hop" than Em and his rock rap hybrid.It's a far stretch to call Em's solo albums real hip hop.....The stuff he did on 8 Mile on the other hand,like "Rabbit Run".... that's hip hop You know what I mean right?
Quote from: Vader on September 25, 2009, 10:16:25 PMQuote from: M Dogg on September 25, 2009, 10:07:23 PMQuote from: Vader on September 25, 2009, 09:47:28 PMQuote from: M Dogg on September 25, 2009, 09:35:58 PMEminem Show I think brought Hip-Hop to a level in mainstream America were you knew REAL hip-hop could be accepted, not just the Dr. Dre pumped Eminem sound.I know I'm going to catch some flack for this...... But to call that piece of shit real hip hop is .......well I can't relate,it's soooo far away from what I know as Hip Hop.You can't relate, you can't relate. Don't make it less Hip-Hop, nor does it make your opinion less relevant. But dude had more skill than anyone in the decade not name Nas, and he was the highest selling artist in the decade. You can't relate, fine, but his shit is real Hip-Hop.skills yes,a very,very talented cat.hip hop NO!!!!!!!!some rap rock hybrid yes.... that the white jackass generation can relate to.... fine. but please don't mix that crap up with hip hop.now let me do a backspin and hit up a train while listening to soul sonic force that's hip hop LOLThere use to be a rule, no biting allow. Another words, don't bit others style, be original. THAT'S HIP-HOP! It's what make Cypress Hill as hip-hop as Onyx, and as hip-hop as Warren G and as hip-hop as Outkast and as hip-hop as Kanye West, and as hip-hop as Wu-Tang and as hip-hop as the Furious 5 and as hip-hop as Ice Cube and as hip-hop as Pete Rock and CL Smooth. Hip-Hop takes from everything, there was rock in Run DMC's sound, and there was so funk in what Dr. Dre was doing, and there was some old soulful R&B in what Kanye's doing. It's all hip-hop, the is no set style other than no biting allowed.
Quote from: M Dogg on September 25, 2009, 10:07:23 PMQuote from: Vader on September 25, 2009, 09:47:28 PMQuote from: M Dogg on September 25, 2009, 09:35:58 PMEminem Show I think brought Hip-Hop to a level in mainstream America were you knew REAL hip-hop could be accepted, not just the Dr. Dre pumped Eminem sound.I know I'm going to catch some flack for this...... But to call that piece of shit real hip hop is .......well I can't relate,it's soooo far away from what I know as Hip Hop.You can't relate, you can't relate. Don't make it less Hip-Hop, nor does it make your opinion less relevant. But dude had more skill than anyone in the decade not name Nas, and he was the highest selling artist in the decade. You can't relate, fine, but his shit is real Hip-Hop.skills yes,a very,very talented cat.hip hop NO!!!!!!!!some rap rock hybrid yes.... that the white jackass generation can relate to.... fine. but please don't mix that crap up with hip hop.now let me do a backspin and hit up a train while listening to soul sonic force that's hip hop
Quote from: Vader on September 25, 2009, 09:47:28 PMQuote from: M Dogg on September 25, 2009, 09:35:58 PMEminem Show I think brought Hip-Hop to a level in mainstream America were you knew REAL hip-hop could be accepted, not just the Dr. Dre pumped Eminem sound.I know I'm going to catch some flack for this...... But to call that piece of shit real hip hop is .......well I can't relate,it's soooo far away from what I know as Hip Hop.You can't relate, you can't relate. Don't make it less Hip-Hop, nor does it make your opinion less relevant. But dude had more skill than anyone in the decade not name Nas, and he was the highest selling artist in the decade. You can't relate, fine, but his shit is real Hip-Hop.
Quote from: M Dogg on September 25, 2009, 09:35:58 PMEminem Show I think brought Hip-Hop to a level in mainstream America were you knew REAL hip-hop could be accepted, not just the Dr. Dre pumped Eminem sound.I know I'm going to catch some flack for this...... But to call that piece of shit real hip hop is .......well I can't relate,it's soooo far away from what I know as Hip Hop.
Hip Hop is what is it is.... what most if not all cats do these days ain't hip hop.nothing wrong with that,it evolved to a gang of signore's and out of all these (gangster rap,mob music,hyphy,alternative rap/backpack,bounce,crunk etc.)..... the only rap sub-genere I feel is so left field to it's original form that I can't listen to it is the rap-rock hybrid one that Kid Rock,Em and co rocks..... it's all the same to me. Let me turn the tables; it's rock with rap.....
Quote from: Vader on September 25, 2009, 11:49:52 PMHip Hop is what is it is.... what most if not all cats do these days ain't hip hop.nothing wrong with that,it evolved to a gang of sub-genres and out of all these (gangster rap,mob music,hyphy,alternative rap/backpack,bounce,crunk etc.)..... the only rap sub-genre I feel is so left field to it's original form that I can't listen to it is the rap-rock hybrid one that Kid Rock,Em and co rocks..... it's all the same to me. Let me turn the tables; it's rock with rap..... according to this theory when a black man and a white woman have a baby the baby is neither black or white.It don't make sense lol.It's a sub-culture genre of hiphop, so still part of the hip hop culture.
Hip Hop is what is it is.... what most if not all cats do these days ain't hip hop.nothing wrong with that,it evolved to a gang of sub-genres and out of all these (gangster rap,mob music,hyphy,alternative rap/backpack,bounce,crunk etc.)..... the only rap sub-genre I feel is so left field to it's original form that I can't listen to it is the rap-rock hybrid one that Kid Rock,Em and co rocks..... it's all the same to me. Let me turn the tables; it's rock with rap.....
Quote from: ikke on September 26, 2009, 12:37:22 AMQuote from: Vader on September 25, 2009, 11:49:52 PMHip Hop is what is it is.... what most if not all cats do these days ain't hip hop.nothing wrong with that,it evolved to a gang of signore's and out of all these (gangster rap,mob music,hyphy,alternative rap/backpack,bounce,crunk etc.)..... the only rap sub-genre I feel is so left field to it's original form that I can't listen to it is the rap-rock hybrid one that Kid Rock,Em and co rocks..... it's all the same to me. Let me turn the tables; it's rock with rap..... according to this theory when a black man and a white woman have a baby the baby is neither black or white.It don't make sense lol.It's a sub-culture genre of hiphop, so still part of the hip hop culture. anyway;sub-genre not subculture... Hip Hop culture; rap,graffiti and breaking OK,how about sub-genre of rock,so it's part of rock?
Quote from: Vader on September 25, 2009, 11:49:52 PMHip Hop is what is it is.... what most if not all cats do these days ain't hip hop.nothing wrong with that,it evolved to a gang of signore's and out of all these (gangster rap,mob music,hyphy,alternative rap/backpack,bounce,crunk etc.)..... the only rap sub-genre I feel is so left field to it's original form that I can't listen to it is the rap-rock hybrid one that Kid Rock,Em and co rocks..... it's all the same to me. Let me turn the tables; it's rock with rap..... according to this theory when a black man and a white woman have a baby the baby is neither black or white.It don't make sense lol.It's a sub-culture genre of hiphop, so still part of the hip hop culture.
Hip Hop is what is it is.... what most if not all cats do these days ain't hip hop.nothing wrong with that,it evolved to a gang of signore's and out of all these (gangster rap,mob music,hyphy,alternative rap/backpack,bounce,crunk etc.)..... the only rap sub-genre I feel is so left field to it's original form that I can't listen to it is the rap-rock hybrid one that Kid Rock,Em and co rocks..... it's all the same to me. Let me turn the tables; it's rock with rap.....
Quote from: Vader on September 26, 2009, 01:06:17 AMQuote from: ikke on September 26, 2009, 12:37:22 AMQuote from: Vader on September 25, 2009, 11:49:52 PMHip Hop is what is it is.... what most if not all cats do these days ain't hip hop.nothing wrong with that,it evolved to a gang of signore's and out of all these (gangster rap,mob music,hyphy,alternative rap/backpack,bounce,crunk etc.)..... the only rap sub-genre I feel is so left field to it's original form that I can't listen to it is the rap-rock hybrid one that Kid Rock,Em and co rocks..... it's all the same to me. Let me turn the tables; it's rock with rap..... according to this theory when a black man and a white woman have a baby the baby is neither black or white.It don't make sense lol.It's a sub-culture genre of hiphop, so still part of the hip hop culture. anyway;sub-genre not subculture... Hip Hop culture; rap,graffiti and breaking OK,how about sub-genre of rock,so it's part of rock? in that case, it's pretty sad how rappers brag that rap is so lyrical & 98% of its history has been outdone by some sub-genre rocker.
i vote for this vader dude to be banned