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Why Obama is not part of the Illuminati
jeromechickenbone:
Oh and yes he does have shady peeps in his cabinet. But u have to understand that one, he needs experienced people around him. Some of these cats have had roles in washington for decades. To throw them out in one fell swoop would be disatrous. He has to make concessions.
Who was his "green advisor" or whatever his title was that resigned a couple weeks back? That dude was a truther and that's why the neocons targeted him so much
virtuoso:
I don't buy the idea that a 911 widower could be bumped off just because she wanted a new investigation. Furthermore I don't buy that he would be persuaded or dissuaded from pursuing 911 by her. Therefore I see this as just bad luck that she was on board this flight. As for Obama, he has already said there will be no investigation and there won't be. To add to that, if they were going to bump her off, then there are much less messier less high publicised ways of doing it than killing an entire plane full of people. As for the other person you mention, it's not as if he could go after the government for arms dealing. There never has been any form of an ethical arms dealing policy and by it's very nature it never will arise.
So basically you base your entire rebuttal on the above essentially? man, we are 9 months into his administration. Radical change for the better would have taken place now, you know something to make his mark instead of supporting the amendments to FISA, continuing with the patriot act (despite the insistence from M Dogg this wouldn't happen) widening the war and all that good shit.
jeromechickenbone:
--- Quote from: virtuoso on October 13, 2009, 05:19:09 PM ---
I don't buy the idea that a 911 widower could be bumped off just because she wanted a new investigation. Furthermore I don't buy that he would be persuaded or dissuaded from pursuing 911 by her. Therefore I see this as just bad luck that she was on board this flight. As for Obama, he has already said there will be no investigation and there won't be. To add to that, if they were going to bump her off, then there are much less messier less high publicised ways of doing it than killing an entire plane full of people. As for the other person you mention, it's not as if he could go after the government for arms dealing. There never has been any form of an ethical arms dealing policy and by it's very nature it never will arise.
So basically you base your entire rebuttal on the above essentially? man, we are 9 months into his administration. Radical change for the better would have taken place now, you know something to make his mark instead of supporting the amendments to FISA, continuing with the patriot act (despite the insistence from M Dogg this wouldn't happen) widening the war and all that good shit.
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No I don't only base on those above reasons. You'll see I was posting from my phone so I kept it short.
Before we go any further, I have to say that I think you enter the argument with a bias against him. I know you follow Alex Jones pretty heavily and lets just say he needs to be taken with a huge lump of salt. If you haven't listented to them, I recommend youtubing his show from 12/31/99 aka Y2K and get a taste of the ridiculous lies and propaganda he spouts. There is hard proof that people associated w/ the powers that be actually feed him some of the articles you see on his site. William Cooper completely exposed him. Alex Jones does have some facts in there, as he must in order to keep his listeners. Do you honestly think he could have got into Bohemian Grove without being invited? He's been on Fox News for God's sake. If he was legit they wouldn't touch him with 1000 ft pole.
Obama's getting transparency in government spending, closing Gitmo, pushing health care which is a direct kick in the balls of the insurance companies who want nothing to do w/ it only because it will effect their bottom line.
Do you honestly think he could just walk in and kick Henry Kissinger out on his ass on day 2 of his presidency? Shit just would not work. Hell I've worked in a place that high very high turnover and it was almost impossible to get shit done.
And lets be honest, the Fed runs the country as it is now. But that's on it's way down. The dollar is being replaced as the reserve currency of the world, 3Q financials will be coming out soon, FDIC is broke, etc. Lots of MAJOR changes happening right now.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: virtuoso on October 13, 2009, 05:19:09 PM ---
I don't buy the idea that a 911 widower could be bumped off just because she wanted a new investigation. Furthermore I don't buy that he would be persuaded or dissuaded from pursuing 911 by her. Therefore I see this as just bad luck that she was on board this flight. As for Obama, he has already said there will be no investigation and there won't be. To add to that, if they were going to bump her off, then there are much less messier less high publicised ways of doing it than killing an entire plane full of people. As for the other person you mention, it's not as if he could go after the government for arms dealing. There never has been any form of an ethical arms dealing policy and by it's very nature it never will arise.
So basically you base your entire rebuttal on the above essentially? man, we are 9 months into his administration. Radical change for the better would have taken place now, you know something to make his mark instead of supporting the amendments to FISA, continuing with the patriot act (despite the insistence from M Dogg this wouldn't happen) widening the war and all that good shit.
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Obama says there wouldn't be an investigation on torture, and now you hear that they are starting the process of looking in to it. It's not like in 1 year you can get Dick Cheney on trail, but the process is being started.
As for the Patriot Act, I am well aware of that. Fact is, I see it as a political move, he says extend it, then congress resist, and from there Obama gives up. The battle is still a couple of months away so we'll see.
Miss Pink:
I dont really like obama...
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