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Yankee fans... who did you prefer? Joe Girardi or Joe Torre?

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OG Hack Wilson:

--- Quote from: sprite on October 11, 2009, 01:10:06 PM ---yeah I'm gonna prefer a manager in his 2nd season over a guy who's coached 6 world series teams

who the fuck would even begin to debate this question?

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joe torre is a below .500 manager without the yankees, fyi

sprite:
all Joey G has on his resume to this point is one division title and a 3rd place finish in 2 years

unless you put a timeframe on the question like... compared to Torre's years with NY not winning the WS or something, the argument is void

OG Hack Wilson:

--- Quote from: sprite on October 11, 2009, 01:35:31 PM ---all Joey G has on his resume to this point is one division title and a 3rd place finish in 2 years

unless you put a timeframe on the question like... compared to Torre's years with NY not winning the WS or something, the argument is void

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well actually, Joe Girardi won "coach of the year" with the Marlins.  that's another big part of his resume.




anyways, ofcourse Torre achived more in his career.  But in all reality Torre fucked up the last 7 years with bad bullpen moves and mis-managing the team.  He's not as good a manager as Bobby Cox that's for sure  (and I'm a Yankees homer)

sprite:
I thought you were just talking about tenures with the Yankees as manager...

and yeah, if you wanna debate 2001-2007 Joe Torre against Girardi so far, it can be entertained....


Cox and Torre... let's see.... looking at the 90's and 00's and stuff

I know the Braves had the consecutive postseason appearances for like 15 years (as did the Yankees... 13 or something?)

Cox could put together some good teams though with inexperienced talent and still compete, obviously with less money

but then again, Torre beat Cox 2 times in the World Series.... once after trailing 0-2 in '96 (winning 4 straight) and sweeping them in '99

the Braves the last 15 years have been notorious chokers... all those postseason appearances, they fell flat right out the gate 90% of the time as favorites

while Joe won 4 world series and 6 AL pennants


I'm not going to say who's better, because I really don't know... just fun to debate I guess

what you think Hack?

OG Hack Wilson:
notice how ever since Don zimmer left the YAnkees they haven't won squat, or made it to a WS :(


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