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A Letter To Vince Young Haters

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Lunatic:

--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on November 01, 2009, 04:27:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: Lunatic 63 on November 01, 2009, 03:55:44 PM ---Chamill: U didn't watch, don't talk shit. Collins had a chance against Jacksonville 4 weeks ago; what happened? We lost 37-17. So Collins put up 17 points against this team, Young put up 30.

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maybe they heard Vince was started & took him for a complete joke & he just showed up today.

i know i would of laughed. ;D

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Yea, your logic is making lots of sense compared to mine ::)

Lunatic:

Lunatic:
To anyone not giving Young credit

Well I know it wasn't VY against Jags. Fact is he played much better than Collins has all year in 1 game, and Collins had 6. He picked up a W in his first start, Collins went 0/6. Collins is averaging more than 1 turnover a start, and Young didn't turn it over once in his first start.

His completion percentage was nearly perfect. He completed several 3rd downs (many of which u must give him credit for, nice runs, needle threading passes in the heart of the defense, spinning out of sacks, etc.)..

The defense and run game was phenomenal. But even that goes to some of Young's Play. Before u discredit that, actually read this. Young kept the offense on the field. In the first quarter, I believe we had 13-14 mins of possession. This defense has been so bad this year because it's used to ALWAYS being on the field; 3 and out almost every time with Collins. I don't think we had a single 3 and out all game today. With Young, the offense is fresher, smoother, stays on the field longer (keeping the defense fresh).

Those are all facts.

Shallow:
They'd still be 1-6 if Vince played all year. They're completely brutal pass D in the first previous 5 games is what did them in. They were a complete different team this week and with Collins they still would have won.

Lunatic:

--- Quote from: Shallow on November 01, 2009, 10:03:00 PM ---They'd still be 1-6 if Vince played all year. They're completely brutal pass D in the first previous 5 games is what did them in. They were a complete different team this week and with Collins they still would have won.

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I usually agree with u, but not on this 1. I watch us week in, week out. Young keeping the offense on the field was the largest KEY. Collins can't do that, and that contributes to the defensive woes (when your always on the field). In the first quarter, our offense kept the ball for about 13-14 mins; pre-Young, we were last in the league on average time of possession.

Another thing is turnovers. Of course your defense is going to be bad when the offense turns it over as much as Collins as by himself (averaging more than 1 turn over per game). Young didn't turn it over today.

All of this contributes to the poor play and 1-6 start. All things Young made us avoid today.

And the "collins would have won this one" pisses me off the most. He PLAYED THIS TEAM A MONTH AGO AND GOT KILLED. Everything would have been different with Collins in; less points, less 3rd down conversions, more sacks taken, defense on the field longer, less offensive time, etc. That's not assumption. Check his numbers. Collins is NOT going to spin out of a John Henderson sack and run for a first down lol.

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