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Bouncing Back
Triple OG Rapsodie:
--- Quote from: ThaRealSupreme on November 17, 2009, 02:49:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: rapsodie sees the bitch in you on November 17, 2009, 02:29:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: ThaRealSupreme on November 17, 2009, 11:38:16 AM ---
--- Quote from: rapsodie sees the bitch in you on November 16, 2009, 06:49:39 PM ---Prayer is useless. Get up off your ass and accomplish something.
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Prayer is useless when u have no faith and when u think God is a genie in the bottle who grants wishes. He doesn't help anyone who doesn't tryin to help themselves. Prayer is just talking to God and not always for what you want or need.
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That's kinda the point. Prayer is useless. Obviously if you help yourself you don't need the assistance of a deity.
You can pray all you want about something. At the end of the day its not going to make any difference in achieving your goals unless it gives you confidence. And in that case its a placebo effect.
If prayer makes you feel better, fine. But it has no effect on real life aside from what you make of it. Personally I think believing in yourself is a much healthier way to go.
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You can't always help yourself especially when u have a disease that can't be cured, if you're about to become evicted when u've tried everything u knew, when you have people who want to do harm to you but you've done nothing to them, etc. As I said God doesn't grant wishes but He'll always give an answer but sometimes it's a plain "no" or "not now".
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If you can't help yourself its called circumstance. God has nothing to do with it. Whether you die of cancer or the chemo works is called chance.
ThaRealSupreme:
--- Quote from: rapsodie sees the bitch in you on November 18, 2009, 05:56:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: ThaRealSupreme on November 17, 2009, 02:49:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: rapsodie sees the bitch in you on November 17, 2009, 02:29:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: ThaRealSupreme on November 17, 2009, 11:38:16 AM ---
--- Quote from: rapsodie sees the bitch in you on November 16, 2009, 06:49:39 PM ---Prayer is useless. Get up off your ass and accomplish something.
--- End quote ---
Prayer is useless when u have no faith and when u think God is a genie in the bottle who grants wishes. He doesn't help anyone who doesn't tryin to help themselves. Prayer is just talking to God and not always for what you want or need.
--- End quote ---
That's kinda the point. Prayer is useless. Obviously if you help yourself you don't need the assistance of a deity.
You can pray all you want about something. At the end of the day its not going to make any difference in achieving your goals unless it gives you confidence. And in that case its a placebo effect.
If prayer makes you feel better, fine. But it has no effect on real life aside from what you make of it. Personally I think believing in yourself is a much healthier way to go.
--- End quote ---
You can't always help yourself especially when u have a disease that can't be cured, if you're about to become evicted when u've tried everything u knew, when you have people who want to do harm to you but you've done nothing to them, etc. As I said God doesn't grant wishes but He'll always give an answer but sometimes it's a plain "no" or "not now".
--- End quote ---
If you can't help yourself its called circumstance. God has nothing to do with it. Whether you die of cancer or the chemo works is called chance.
--- End quote ---
But I've seen prayer change things and people. You haven't which is why u think it's useless and believe otherwise.
Triple OG Rapsodie:
--- Quote from: ThaRealSupreme on November 18, 2009, 08:17:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: rapsodie sees the bitch in you on November 18, 2009, 05:56:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: ThaRealSupreme on November 17, 2009, 02:49:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: rapsodie sees the bitch in you on November 17, 2009, 02:29:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: ThaRealSupreme on November 17, 2009, 11:38:16 AM ---
--- Quote from: rapsodie sees the bitch in you on November 16, 2009, 06:49:39 PM ---Prayer is useless. Get up off your ass and accomplish something.
--- End quote ---
Prayer is useless when u have no faith and when u think God is a genie in the bottle who grants wishes. He doesn't help anyone who doesn't tryin to help themselves. Prayer is just talking to God and not always for what you want or need.
--- End quote ---
That's kinda the point. Prayer is useless. Obviously if you help yourself you don't need the assistance of a deity.
You can pray all you want about something. At the end of the day its not going to make any difference in achieving your goals unless it gives you confidence. And in that case its a placebo effect.
If prayer makes you feel better, fine. But it has no effect on real life aside from what you make of it. Personally I think believing in yourself is a much healthier way to go.
--- End quote ---
You can't always help yourself especially when u have a disease that can't be cured, if you're about to become evicted when u've tried everything u knew, when you have people who want to do harm to you but you've done nothing to them, etc. As I said God doesn't grant wishes but He'll always give an answer but sometimes it's a plain "no" or "not now".
--- End quote ---
If you can't help yourself its called circumstance. God has nothing to do with it. Whether you die of cancer or the chemo works is called chance.
--- End quote ---
But I've seen prayer change things and people. You haven't which is why u think it's useless and believe otherwise.
--- End quote ---
Its called life and random chance. Whether you pray to your god or to the giant blob that lives under the earth makes no difference. I guarantee they will both have the exact same effect in making something come to pass.
Millions of people die every year from cancer. Almost all of these people prayed and their loved ones prayed for them as well. Now how the hell are you going to claim that prayer had anything to do with a few of these people surviving, when for all the rest it did nothing? When the doctor tells you that you have a 99.9% chance you are going to die, and you end up surviving, its not the work of god. Its that .01%.
QuietTruth:
^ Ba-cuz like he said before.
--- Quote from: ThaRealSupreme on November 17, 2009, 11:38:16 AM ---Prayer is useless when u have no faith and when u think God is a genie in the bottle who grants wishes. He doesn't help anyone who doesn't tryin to help themselves. Prayer is just talking to God and not always for what you want or need.
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:)
Bananas:
Prayer is helpful because it affirms positive thoughts and provides with a daily mantra and purpose, of course there isn't a God in the laughable christian sense paying attention to you, but the pure act of getting thoughts and feelings out on a daily basis is healthy and prayer serves a good avenue for that.
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