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Why do Atheists seem to get on Christaianity and not Islam?

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QuietTruth:

--- Quote from: OPERATION IGNORE LIGHTS AND GET HIM BANNED NOW on November 11, 2009, 10:12:45 PM ---we're going in circles man lol.

What I'm trynna say is that God might just be a metaphor for something deeper than a person telling people what's right and wrong

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Lol, I see what ya sayin' though.

The Overfiend:

--- Quote from:  Definition ---Faith - The theological virtue defined as secure belief in God and a trusting acceptance of God's will.
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--- Quote from: OPERATION IGNORE LIGHTS AND GET HIM BANNED NOW on November 11, 2009, 09:58:17 PM ---not emotional just disrespected because you wouldn't answer my question. But if you really think I don't know what an atheist is, than yes you are an idiot

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Ah I see. Relax.  ;)



--- Quote from: OPERATION IGNORE LIGHTS AND GET HIM BANNED NOW on November 11, 2009, 09:56:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on November 11, 2009, 09:51:32 PM ---Si homie.

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that's just one lexical definition. What if one believed that god and life is so complex that not even a book is enough to guide you. to me faith is the belief that you will truly achieve happiness one day.. and a true happy person is someone who is highly moral. Would God punish that person?

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I would say that your line of belief is close to atheism. Atheists just don't believe in deities is all.  Its not like Atheists don't believe in anything, they just have discerned that a good way to live life evolves out of experience, knowledge and wisdom, rather than superstition or blind faith. Some streams of Buddhism, and also Zen Buddhism do not advocate a belief in deities either. As Buddhism does not advocate a belief in god/s, it can be described as atheistic. Most faiths have atheistic aspects.

One of his students asked Buddha, "Are you the messiah?"
"No", answered Buddha.
"Then are you a healer?"
"No", Buddha replied.
"Then are you a teacher?" the student persisted.
"No, I am not a teacher."
"Then what are you?" asked the student, exasperated.
"I am awake", Buddha replied.

Sparegeez:

--- Quote from: Illuminati Clique on November 11, 2009, 10:28:33 PM ---
--- Quote from:  Definition ---Faith - The theological virtue defined as secure belief in God and a trusting acceptance of God's will.
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--- Quote from: OPERATION IGNORE LIGHTS AND GET HIM BANNED NOW on November 11, 2009, 09:58:17 PM ---not emotional just disrespected because you wouldn't answer my question. But if you really think I don't know what an atheist is, than yes you are an idiot

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Ah I see. Relax.  ;)



--- Quote from: OPERATION IGNORE LIGHTS AND GET HIM BANNED NOW on November 11, 2009, 09:56:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on November 11, 2009, 09:51:32 PM ---Si homie.

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that's just one lexical definition. What if one believed that god and life is so complex that not even a book is enough to guide you. to me faith is the belief that you will truly achieve happiness one day.. and a true happy person is someone who is highly moral. Would God punish that person?

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I would say that your line of belief is close to atheism. Atheists just don't believe in deities is all.  Its not like Atheists don't believe in anything, they just have discerned that a good way to live life evolves out of experience, knowledge and wisdom, rather than superstition or blind faith. Some streams of Buddhism, and also Zen Buddhism do not advocate a belief in deities either. As Buddhism does not advocate a belief in god/s, it can be described as atheistic. Most faiths have atheistic aspects. Now if, God appeared directly to an atheist then that would be another story, and an atheist would like to think they would question such a deity if it did appear. In absence of such. atheists find profound understanding through simply experiencing and witnessing life.

One of his students asked Buddha, "Are you the messiah?"
"No", answered Buddha.
"Then are you a healer?"
"No", Buddha replied.
"Then are you a teacher?" the student persisted.
"No, I am not a teacher."
"Then what are you?" asked the student, exasperated.
"I am awake", Buddha replied.

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hmm that's quite interesting. I think Imma do some research on Buddha now that you've shown me that dialogue. But I don't believe I'm an atheist. I might be according to your operational definition but I think my belief in the bible and afterlife contradicts what an atheist believes in. I believe all the holy books have something holy in them, except the only one I've ever known is the bible. Although I don't take what the bible says as literal as how most Catholics do. Words can be very ambiguous, they can mean the total opposite of what one think they mean. I believe you can only understand certain parts of the bible until you have the wisdom to read deeper than just between the lines. The bible will forever be teaching me, until the day I die.

The Overfiend:
Word.


My view is it all relates. We all separate units of thought and consciousness, inevitably we clash with each other. Faiths are descriptions from different perspectives of existence, we all seeing and living on the same hurtling rock through space.

The Overfiend:
Though each was partly in the right,

And all were in the wrong!


-'The Blind Men and the Elephant'

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