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the AFC is so tight this year
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Who DEY? on November 15, 2009, 09:31:23 PM ---25-38, 1td , 1 int, 1 lost fumble, 3.8 yrds per attempt. Hardly mvp worthy stats, but i mean he is the superstar so it was givin to him. Addai had 66yrs receiving and 77yrds rushing. rhodes had 113yrs rushing, 5.4 per attempt. and haydens pick 6 and other contributions over mannings. All were more deserving imo.
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So were any number of defenders on the SB3 Jets, or the 01 Pats that held St Louis to 17 and had a pick 6. Really look at the history of QBs winning SB MVPs and look at their numbers. They win it over half the time. Namath had no TDs 17 completions for 200 yards and an INT and won it while Matt Snell rushed for 121 yards and a TD. Sauer had 9 catches for 130 yards. The Jets D had 4 INTs. Why did Namath win? Because that's how the NFL is.
My argument was never that Peyton Manning is the best player on the field and deserves MVPs. My argument is he's the best QB on the field, and that Superbowl he definitely was. He also was against the Pats, that year and tonight.
OG Hack Wilson:
--- Quote from: Who DEY? on November 15, 2009, 09:18:15 PM ---we play defence, something no team colts have played do.
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http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe/2009.htm
pats have the 2nd ranked defense
colts scored 35 and won
OchoCinco:
--- Quote from: Shallow on November 15, 2009, 09:50:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: Who DEY? on November 15, 2009, 09:31:23 PM ---25-38, 1td , 1 int, 1 lost fumble, 3.8 yrds per attempt. Hardly mvp worthy stats, but i mean he is the superstar so it was givin to him. Addai had 66yrs receiving and 77yrds rushing. rhodes had 113yrs rushing, 5.4 per attempt. and haydens pick 6 and other contributions over mannings. All were more deserving imo.
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So were any number of defenders on the SB3 Jets, or the 01 Pats that held St Louis to 17 and had a pick 6. Really look at the history of QBs winning SB MVPs and look at their numbers. They win it over half the time. Namath had no TDs 17 completions for 200 yards and an INT and won it while Matt Snell rushed for 121 yards and a TD. Sauer had 9 catches for 130 yards. The Jets D had 4 INTs. Why did Namath win? Because that's how the NFL is.
My argument was never that Peyton Manning is the best player on the field and deserves MVPs. My argument is he's the best QB on the field, and that Superbowl he definitely was. He also was against the Pats, that year and tonight.
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yea wel lthat just shows what i said he is the superstar so he got it, but he played like an average qb in that game wether u admit it or not. Was not a mvp worthy performance.
i hate skip bayless but i agree with this comment 100%
For the record, my pt. on Peyton was: Greatest regular-season QB EVER. Overrated because of sub-par playoff stats. Just a matter of facts.
Chamillitary Click:
i want to see a perfect Super Bowl, but i give that a 5% of happening.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Who DEY? on November 16, 2009, 06:02:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on November 15, 2009, 09:50:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: Who DEY? on November 15, 2009, 09:31:23 PM ---25-38, 1td , 1 int, 1 lost fumble, 3.8 yrds per attempt. Hardly mvp worthy stats, but i mean he is the superstar so it was givin to him. Addai had 66yrs receiving and 77yrds rushing. rhodes had 113yrs rushing, 5.4 per attempt. and haydens pick 6 and other contributions over mannings. All were more deserving imo.
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So were any number of defenders on the SB3 Jets, or the 01 Pats that held St Louis to 17 and had a pick 6. Really look at the history of QBs winning SB MVPs and look at their numbers. They win it over half the time. Namath had no TDs 17 completions for 200 yards and an INT and won it while Matt Snell rushed for 121 yards and a TD. Sauer had 9 catches for 130 yards. The Jets D had 4 INTs. Why did Namath win? Because that's how the NFL is.
My argument was never that Peyton Manning is the best player on the field and deserves MVPs. My argument is he's the best QB on the field, and that Superbowl he definitely was. He also was against the Pats, that year and tonight.
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yea wel lthat just shows what i said he is the superstar so he got it, but he played like an average qb in that game wether u admit it or not. Was not a mvp worthy performance.
i hate skip bayless but i agree with this comment 100%
For the record, my pt. on Peyton was: Greatest regular-season QB EVER. Overrated because of sub-par playoff stats. Just a matter of facts.
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I never said it was MVP worthy by Manning. But because there was no obvious stand out the QB got it. Same reason Brady got it the first year. My argument was that Peyton was never in a position to earn it. The Bears gave up. At least Peyton should get some credit for comitting to the run. He does call it on the field after all and reserves the right to over turn any coaching decision. How many other QBs can tell the punt unit to go back to the bench and go for it on 4th down like Peyton did in the 05 playoff game against the Steelers.
And I get a kick how Peyton is sub par inthe post season while one of the "great post season QBs" BRady is only 3 passer points higher. If an 85 passer rating is sub par then so is an 88 passer rating.
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