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the AFC is so tight this year
Chamillitary Click:
^the fact you give all the credit to Charlie Weis, why? because you hate Tom Brady lol.
& Peyton just does it all alone, because he is so "GOAT". ::)
so let me ask you, the defense KNOWS you're throwing, they are kind of laying back (not too much), but enough & you want Brady throwing into that triple coverage down the field? alright.
the only thing that makes sense is a lot of 5-6 yard throws; PLUS ALL THEY NEEDED WAS A FIELD GOAL.
& you're just reaching now, the Pats went 18-0 without Charlie Weis & you're going to say they lost the 19th game because they didn't have Weis? that's ABSURD! :laugh:
like 18-0 is so easy. ::)
Brady had his best offensive season without Weis; outscored every opponet they played (including the Giants week 17); what happened was the Giants figured them out in the Super Bowl & the Pats were in position to win the game before the lucky chuck.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on November 17, 2009, 01:40:26 PM ---^the fact you give all the credit to Charlie Weis, why? because you hate Tom Brady lol.
& Peyton just does it all alone, because he is so "GOAT". ::)
so let me ask you, the defense KNOWS you're throwing, they are kind of laying back (not too much), but enough & you want Brady throwing into that triple coverage down the field? alright.
the only thing that makes sense is a lot of 5-6 yard throws; PLUS ALL THEY NEEDED WAS A FIELD GOAL.
& you're just reaching now, the Pats went 18-0 without Charlie Weis & you're going to say they lost the 19th game because they didn't have Weis? that's ABSURD! :laugh:
like 18-0 is so easy. ::)
Brady had his best offensive season without Weis; outscored every opponet they played (including the Giants week 17); what happened was the Giants figured them out in the Super Bowl & the Pats were in position to win the game before the lucky chuck.
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I never gave all the credit to Weis. Where did I say that? I said he gets zero credit, when he should get at least as much as Brady gets.
Again you're confusing what I mean about the screen plays. Brady did nothing wrong on those plays. He shouldn't have made tough throws. He didn't have to. Peyton does have to. Because the Colts built their offense around a QB and a bunch of hands WRs that depends on the fact that the QB can make the throw. Then on defense they are built to pass rush with the lead. It's not my ideal vision of how to build team in the NFL but it can only be done with a handful of QBs throughout history. In fact the only three I can think of is Unitas, Marino, and Manning.
My point is, was, and will always be that Brady is good enough to win on a team and offense like NE, but not good enough to win on a team and offense like Indy's. Disagree if you want, but that's the opinion I'm sticking with.
PS. You're wrong about the 07 offense. The Eagles offense outscored the Pats offense in week 12.
And one last thing about Weis; it's not that he was the reason they won. It's that he was the extra push. he's smarter offensively than McDaniels, specifically when it comes to in game adjustments. McDaniels was not ready for the different defense Spagnuolo showed him and Brady wasn't good enough to perform under pocket pressure. So where I think Weis would have had a halftime strategy ready to go McDaniels did not. Fuck the lucky pass, on 3rd down not 4th, the reason they lost was because they only scored 14. If they could score more than 14 that lucky pass wouldn't have mattered.
Chamillitary Click:
^you're kind of understating the Giants defense that year; but whatever, no point in trying to talk sense to you when it's obvious you're stuck on anything that goes against Brady.
i mean the Colts OC doesn't even come into the conversation & Charlie Weis is the reason Brady even wins. :D
OchoCinco:
whatever u say about peyton or brady shallow will bring some excuse as to how brady doesnt compare but when you say the exact things to show brady is better and show stats he always has some excuse. Its funny cus he will never admit that peyton aint all then when it comes to winning the championship. he had great teams that have one the most games a decade yet they have only one championship against a team that had no qb at all and he had to rely on the run to win the game. facts are facts manning aint fit for the big game.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on November 17, 2009, 03:19:32 PM ---^you're kind of understating the Giants defense that year; but whatever, no point in trying to talk sense to you when it's obvious you're stuck on anything that goes against Brady.
i mean the Colts OC doesn't even come into the conversation & Charlie Weis is the reason Brady even wins. :D
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Tom Moore has never been touted as an offensive genius and he himself has stated he acts more as a post to bounce ideas off while Manning calls the plays on the field and spends just as much time with Moore and the other offensive guys working out the plays in the playbook. That is a factor in the greatness of Manning, but that's not what makes him out of Brady's league. He's out of Brady's league for the same reason Jordan is out of Barkley's league; because in the field of play he plays better. Not he has more TDs, or more completions, or more wins. It's that he's more talented and can do things Brady cannot do. I don't need to bother with numbers or stats. I just need to watch them play and I know.
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