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Quote from: MediumL on November 19, 2009, 07:26:49 AMThe seedings are done on best teams at the moment. In terms of quality Holland shit all over Germany atm but come the tournament I would not be surprised if the Germans get further. Spain are probably in top 3 teams at the moment yet come the WC they too could choke (like they did against the USA) and get knocked out.Regarding Portugal. They will probably be seeded as a 2nd team. You're definitely not in the top ten teams at the moment (as shown by their failure to qualify automatically) and just because Ronaldo is one of the world's best players means jack shit if the rest of the team is average. Regarding what I'd like to see from the WC. I'd obviously want England to win it but thats an unlikely outcome. So I'm hoping more for brilliant games and excellent skill. FIFA handed both France and Portugal their tickets to the finals on a plate so I'd hope that their best players show their worth and provide the entertainment the fans deserve. I'd like to see some classic grudge games. Argentina vs England, Portugal vs Greece, Brazil vs France, USA vs Mexico etc. Those always create good viewing if they live up to the hype. Moreover a 'group of death' is a must (4 top teams in one group ie. Brazil, France, Ivory Coast & Portugal). And some underdog teams achieving success (the 2002 WC was brilliant for this with Ireland and S. Korea beating the big names).But most important is the classic moments that can be replayed in years to come. Amazing freekicks, tricks never seen before, controversial moments, sendings off, hot Brazilian girls in bikinis, a town centre full of England flags and a brilliant final. Just to correct you in 1 place, Ireland only beat Saudi Arabia in the 2002 tournement. Drew with Germany and lost to Spain in the 2nd round on penalties. Still a great effort though.
The seedings are done on best teams at the moment. In terms of quality Holland shit all over Germany atm but come the tournament I would not be surprised if the Germans get further. Spain are probably in top 3 teams at the moment yet come the WC they too could choke (like they did against the USA) and get knocked out.Regarding Portugal. They will probably be seeded as a 2nd team. You're definitely not in the top ten teams at the moment (as shown by their failure to qualify automatically) and just because Ronaldo is one of the world's best players means jack shit if the rest of the team is average. Regarding what I'd like to see from the WC. I'd obviously want England to win it but thats an unlikely outcome. So I'm hoping more for brilliant games and excellent skill. FIFA handed both France and Portugal their tickets to the finals on a plate so I'd hope that their best players show their worth and provide the entertainment the fans deserve. I'd like to see some classic grudge games. Argentina vs England, Portugal vs Greece, Brazil vs France, USA vs Mexico etc. Those always create good viewing if they live up to the hype. Moreover a 'group of death' is a must (4 top teams in one group ie. Brazil, France, Ivory Coast & Portugal). And some underdog teams achieving success (the 2002 WC was brilliant for this with Ireland and S. Korea beating the big names).But most important is the classic moments that can be replayed in years to come. Amazing freekicks, tricks never seen before, controversial moments, sendings off, hot Brazilian girls in bikinis, a town centre full of England flags and a brilliant final.
Quote from: not decided yet on November 19, 2009, 02:54:16 PMwell, I count the 3 rd place game, so that makes it 2 victories in the last 2 tournaments. On the other side, I remember an embarassing defeat in 2000.And I agree with Medium. Portugal is not average, but as of know, I wouldn't count them in the top 8. The golden generation is gone, and the younger generation hasn't convinced me yet.I don't think Portugal 'll play a big role in SA. 3rd place game doesn't concern me. I know a grip of our best players didn't start where-as there better players were the goal scorers. I don't recall the 2000 game; a friendly, perhaps?SpainItalyEnglandGermanySpainBrazilFranceArgentinaHollandI can't see anyone else arguing any other teams besides those better than us. That would leave us at 10. And I don't think France and Argentina are better than us; that's a toss up. And I don't care what u say about England or Holland, until they beat us (we've owned them both in recent major tournaments), they're not better than us either. But I understand England's qualifying campaign will lead u all to another answer. Fine by me. I won't argue it.
well, I count the 3 rd place game, so that makes it 2 victories in the last 2 tournaments. On the other side, I remember an embarassing defeat in 2000.And I agree with Medium. Portugal is not average, but as of know, I wouldn't count them in the top 8. The golden generation is gone, and the younger generation hasn't convinced me yet.I don't think Portugal 'll play a big role in SA.
Quote from: Invincible on November 19, 2009, 05:02:53 PMQuote from: MediumL on November 19, 2009, 07:26:49 AMThe seedings are done on best teams at the moment. In terms of quality Holland shit all over Germany atm but come the tournament I would not be surprised if the Germans get further. Spain are probably in top 3 teams at the moment yet come the WC they too could choke (like they did against the USA) and get knocked out.Regarding Portugal. They will probably be seeded as a 2nd team. You're definitely not in the top ten teams at the moment (as shown by their failure to qualify automatically) and just because Ronaldo is one of the world's best players means jack shit if the rest of the team is average. Regarding what I'd like to see from the WC. I'd obviously want England to win it but thats an unlikely outcome. So I'm hoping more for brilliant games and excellent skill. FIFA handed both France and Portugal their tickets to the finals on a plate so I'd hope that their best players show their worth and provide the entertainment the fans deserve. I'd like to see some classic grudge games. Argentina vs England, Portugal vs Greece, Brazil vs France, USA vs Mexico etc. Those always create good viewing if they live up to the hype. Moreover a 'group of death' is a must (4 top teams in one group ie. Brazil, France, Ivory Coast & Portugal). And some underdog teams achieving success (the 2002 WC was brilliant for this with Ireland and S. Korea beating the big names).But most important is the classic moments that can be replayed in years to come. Amazing freekicks, tricks never seen before, controversial moments, sendings off, hot Brazilian girls in bikinis, a town centre full of England flags and a brilliant final. Just to correct you in 1 place, Ireland only beat Saudi Arabia in the 2002 tournement. Drew with Germany and lost to Spain in the 2nd round on penalties. Still a great effort though.Maybe the hysteria around the draw against Germany felt like they'd won lol. But I can't see Portugal doing much when they struggled to qualify from the group stages. Somehow I think Holland will mess up again and I can't see England doing any better than the qaurters. Although a lot of the competition is luck of the draw. I've seen some teams get to the semis without having to beat a top 10 team.
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Quote from: MediumL on November 20, 2009, 02:18:37 AMQuote from: Invincible on November 19, 2009, 05:02:53 PMQuote from: MediumL on November 19, 2009, 07:26:49 AMThe seedings are done on best teams at the moment. In terms of quality Holland shit all over Germany atm but come the tournament I would not be surprised if the Germans get further. Spain are probably in top 3 teams at the moment yet come the WC they too could choke (like they did against the USA) and get knocked out.Regarding Portugal. They will probably be seeded as a 2nd team. You're definitely not in the top ten teams at the moment (as shown by their failure to qualify automatically) and just because Ronaldo is one of the world's best players means jack shit if the rest of the team is average. Regarding what I'd like to see from the WC. I'd obviously want England to win it but thats an unlikely outcome. So I'm hoping more for brilliant games and excellent skill. FIFA handed both France and Portugal their tickets to the finals on a plate so I'd hope that their best players show their worth and provide the entertainment the fans deserve. I'd like to see some classic grudge games. Argentina vs England, Portugal vs Greece, Brazil vs France, USA vs Mexico etc. Those always create good viewing if they live up to the hype. Moreover a 'group of death' is a must (4 top teams in one group ie. Brazil, France, Ivory Coast & Portugal). And some underdog teams achieving success (the 2002 WC was brilliant for this with Ireland and S. Korea beating the big names).But most important is the classic moments that can be replayed in years to come. Amazing freekicks, tricks never seen before, controversial moments, sendings off, hot Brazilian girls in bikinis, a town centre full of England flags and a brilliant final. Just to correct you in 1 place, Ireland only beat Saudi Arabia in the 2002 tournement. Drew with Germany and lost to Spain in the 2nd round on penalties. Still a great effort though.Maybe the hysteria around the draw against Germany felt like they'd won lol. But I can't see Portugal doing much when they struggled to qualify from the group stages. Somehow I think Holland will mess up again and I can't see England doing any better than the qaurters. Although a lot of the competition is luck of the draw. I've seen some teams get to the semis without having to beat a top 10 team.Like Germany in 2002. Paraguay, USA and South Korea on their way to the final. USA may well have been ranked in the top 10 at the time, but they are not a top 10 team in the world.
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