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Lunatic:
Young did throw 17 in his 2nd season
Chamillitary Click:
--- Quote from: Lunatic 63 on November 29, 2009, 07:32:34 PM ---Young did throw 17 in his 2nd season
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it was a different offensive scheme then, but that actually surprises me.
EDIT: but the point was now, like as long as they are a run-first team; he shouldn't throw many picks.
Lunatic:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on November 29, 2009, 07:35:22 PM ---
--- Quote from: Lunatic 63 on November 29, 2009, 07:32:34 PM ---Young did throw 17 in his 2nd season
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it was a different offensive scheme then, but that actually surprises me.
EDIT: but the point was now, like as long as they are a run-first team; he shouldn't throw many picks.
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17 INTS his 2nd year
13 his first year
D-Nice:
Incredible game and to win 5 games in a row is impressive. Vince is doing his thing along with the whole team.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on November 29, 2009, 05:17:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on November 29, 2009, 05:08:17 PM ---
I hate Rivers more than I hate Brady.
Everything being said CJ is still the best player on that team.
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Does it have to do with the Chargers-Colts playoff games the last 2 years? ;D
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To be honest. I just hate seeing his face when he's happy. With Brady it's because of all the the hype. With Rivers it's genuine dislike. Colts games aside. I give no credit to Rivers for those wins either. In one of them Billy Volek walked in and drove them down the field against the horrible D.
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on November 29, 2009, 05:22:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on November 29, 2009, 05:15:48 PM ---The scrambling a is a bonus, like it is with Roth. What Vince showed me tonight was exactly what Ben showed me in the SB. Sure both cases were left up to bad defense at the end by the very same defense. But Vince was calm, steady, and made the throws he needed to make. What's that word they use for Brady all the time? He had poise. It doesn't mean I think he's one of the elites, but Vince Young has matured. You can't deny that.
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Vince is a different type of scrambler than Roth.
Roth scrambles when there is nothing available and he sees room, Vince scrambles when he sees room even if he might have a play with the pass, it's just something i never cared for.
he's less a scrambler than Vick was, but more of one than Roth is.
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That's my point though. I think he's becoming more like Roth ad less like Vick. He's learning to hold on and look for the pass rather than run. As for who is better between the three QBs in the draft class. I did think when the draft happened that Vince would end up with the worst career of the three. So far it's Leinart. Leinart has disappointed me but he could still turn it around. I'd pick Vince for the worst team, meaning on a bad team I'd take Vince to give us a better chance at some Ws over the other two. I'd still take Cutler on a great team over those two and a lot of other QBs.
I said at the beginning of the trade that my theory on QBs would be shown true and that Orton would jump way up while Cutler could take a major hit. On a great offense with great weapons Cutler was an animal. In a joke system like Chicago he looks as bad as Orton did, while Orton looks like a QB you hope doesn't get injured because now Denver is counting on him or so it would seem. It's my own little Brady rule. Cassel really helped that out this year too.
Anyway, if I was building a dynasty and wanted the best shot at multiple SB appearances and wins, I'd take Cutler over all of the other young QBs. On the 2000s New England Cutler would give us as better chance at 3 or more than Young or Leinart. Same with the 90s Cowboys, or 80s 49ers, or 70s Steelers, or 60s Packers. Or even just one SB and had an offensive team, I'd as of now take Jay. Maybe that'll change in the coming years.
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