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who invented religions and why?
QuietTruth:
--- Quote from: Infinite... Be and It Is on December 25, 2009, 03:32:32 PM ----Identification- For example, Black people have historically identified with Islam in America because it offers them something to identify with other than the slave ships, and the religion of their slave master. Offers them a deeper and richer history which traces back to what was the original religion for many people coming from West Africa. A time when they were wealthy kings and queens (Mali Kingdom of Mansa Musa) in control of their own destiny.
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Honestly, I don't see no big difference. The Quran was written after The Bible. So when people say that shit that The Bible is the white man's laws, is bullshit, it's not like it's any different. Quran even says that itself. So I don't get all that. It says in the beginning that between the prophets, it's no difference they all came from God. Just becuz a white man used Christianity in the wrong way doesn't knock it's authenticity or make it a white man's book. Just becuz they painted white portraits don't make it that way neither. Them folks used it vainly. That's it. We know the folks in The Bible was not British white like when they came to America wit the shit. Quran confirms, creation, Moses, Jesus, even the apostles, and so on and so forth, so what makes them completely diverse? What I got from The Quran more than The Bible was the emphasis on non-believers more than anythang. Now when The Bible, drops names, dates and events coinciding wit archaeological evidence and The Quran is dropping explanations wit scientific backings.... if one coincides 'History' and The one coincides 'Science', niggas need to put them together. They both great books!! Christianity ain't no white man's Scripture like The Quran ain't no black man's Scripture. Jesus said in The Book Of John another prophet will be sent to bring remembrance of Jesus's teachings of God, Muhammad was born like 5 or 6 centuries after Jesus right? So how we know Jesus could have been talkin' bout Muhammad.
QuietTruth:
--- Quote from: THETRUTHUG on December 25, 2009, 06:02:54 AM ---Translation: Surah 112: Al-Ikhlas (The Unity, Sincerity, Oneness Of God)
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
1. Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
2. Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
3. He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
4. And there is none like unto Him
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Exactly. If God is the energy and infinite light, if he's outside the matter and time, the question ain't who invented God, that can't be invented, question is who invented THIS.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on December 25, 2009, 04:51:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: Infinite... Be and It Is on December 25, 2009, 03:32:32 PM ----Identification- For example, Black people have historically identified with Islam in America because it offers them something to identify with other than the slave ships, and the religion of their slave master. Offers them a deeper and richer history which traces back to what was the original religion for many people coming from West Africa. A time when they were wealthy kings and queens (Mali Kingdom of Mansa Musa) in control of their own destiny.
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Honestly, I don't see no big difference. The Quran was written after The Bible. So when people say that shit that The Bible is the white man's laws, is bullshit, it's not like it's any different. Quran even says that itself. So I don't get all that. It says in the beginning that between the prophets, it's no difference they all came from God. Just becuz a white man used Christianity in the wrong way doesn't knock it's authenticity or make it a white man's book. Just becuz they painted white portraits don't make it that way neither. Them folks used it vainly. That's it. We know the folks in The Bible was not British white like when they came to America wit the shit. Quran confirms, creation, Moses, Jesus, even the apostles, and so on and so forth, so what makes them completely diverse? What I got from The Quran more than The Bible was the emphasis on non-believers more than anythang. Now when The Bible, drops names, dates and events coinciding wit archaeological evidence and The Quran is dropping explanations wit scientific backings.... if one coincides 'History' and The one coincides 'Science', niggas need to put them together. They both great books!! Christianity ain't no white man's Scripture like The Quran ain't no black man's Scripture. Jesus said in The Book Of John another prophet will be sent to bring remembrance of Jesus's teachings of God, Muhammad was born like 5 or 6 centuries after Jesus right? So how we know Jesus could have been talkin' bout Muhammad.
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Notice, I was talking about Identification. You are talking about theology. So we are talking about two different things. Yes, the Bible has similarities to the Qu'ran as you said. But that is not the point.
Historically, although you say the Bible and Qu'ran are similar, the histories of Christians and Muslims have not been similar. If you look at black people in America and ask, "How did you become a Christian"? The answer is, "Through slavery". So many blacks in America were not comfortable with this answer, and they didn't want to identify with that part of their history.
Let's say an Alien came to America. And they wanted to Identify with either Christianity and Islam. They read the history of Christains in America and they didn't like it for whatever reasons, they met with Christians in their environment and they did not feel comfortable around them for whatever reason. Then they read the history of Muslims in America and they were inspired, and they found it easy to biuld relationships with Muslims in their environment. So therefore, they they identify with Muslims.
Another example could be an Arab comes over to America with Zero understanding of Islam. The Christians in the country reject him mostly or because of his race. Yet, the Muslims accept him naturally because of his race and language. So therefore he identifies more with Islam, and it's possible he may start attending a local masjid and making efforts to learn more and practice more Islam.
So... you see I was talking about Identification and you were talking about Theology.
QuietTruth:
Oh you mean like how a person chooses a religion? I see what you're sayin'. I thought you meant somethang different, lol.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on December 25, 2009, 04:56:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: THETRUTHUG on December 25, 2009, 06:02:54 AM ---Translation: Surah 112: Al-Ikhlas (The Unity, Sincerity, Oneness Of God)
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
1. Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
2. Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
3. He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
4. And there is none like unto Him
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Exactly. If God is the energy and infinite light, if he's outside the matter and time, the question ain't who invented God, that can't be invented, question is who invented THIS.
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See in Islam, Allah has 99 names. So he is the Creator of this. Because "Creator" is one of his 99 names. So when we worship we are worshiping the Creator. Also, we are worshiping the "Infinite/Eternal", which means we worship what has always been here forever and ever with no beginning and no in.
So to answer your question Allah is both. He is the Infinite energy and the Source of all that is in Creation.
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