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Anti American Posts
Woodrow:
--- Quote from: Infinite Ibrahim Abdul Hamid on October 01, 2002, 06:10:02 AM ---Allah teaches us to be patient, tolerant. I was not. An aversion overtook me after Trauma and Jake repeatedly called me the devil. Trauma had previously reported me to the authorities as being a terrorist. I then strayed away from everything I've been taught by my Islamic mentors, and I made attempts to discredit another man's religion.
I sincearly ask for your forgiveness, Jake and Trauma. And upon Isha prayer today I will ask for Allah's forgiveness.
In the future I will continue to defend my religion, but I will refrain from discrediting anothers religion. I ask that Siavish and Tech help prevent me from doing this again. I am eternally sorry and ask for forgiveness. Peace.
--- End quote ---
ITW [the irish boy]:
I'm gonna try and bring some objective thinking to this debate. I may fail, but I'll try.
First off : Why are all posts negative? I think the reason for this is to counter-balance the propoganda of TV, movies etc, which proclaim the US as the clean-cut hero of the world. I think the purpose of these posts is not to make you hate your own country, but to realise the crimes to humanity that are being done behind the curtain of capitalism. I myself am not against capitalism, but I am against the corruption that is allowed breed because of it. Perhaps with the knowledge that these posts hope to give you, you can question your own government and maybe they will change in a small way.
As for the Stupid/osama/jealous complexes i don't think they apply. The worldwide anti-american feeling is not towards the american citizens. In fact they are probably related to us in some way. It is with, as Quake put it, the selfishness of the US government foreign policies. It is one thing to remain on top, but doing so by putting other countrys down, bombing them, basically fucking around with their own concerns, thats what breeds hate. Also, the fact that yall backed out of KYOTO, which everyone else, regardless of their economic situation signed up to. The fact that GWB wouldnt even go to the world summit in south africa.
Now trauma made a good point, every country has its rotten apples. Very true. Here in Ireland our current government are a lying corrupt bunch of dick-lickers. But the only thing i can say in their favour is they pay their dues internationally and dont go around trying to control the world. I may have missed out on a few points here, but if I have, point them out and I'll gladly answer them.
One last thing....Why does this always become Christian vs Muslim??? I'm of no religion, brought up in a christian society but I think it needs to be seperated from political discussions.
The Big Bad Ass:
^^ Props to you homie. This is the kind of response I'm sure Trauma was hoping for, and it actually makes alot of sense. I'm not saying I think it's okay for constant shots at america, but it does shed some light on why there are so many posts. As for the muslim/christian issue, the shit is tired. Just worship who you worship, and don't sweat someone else's views. And to people who generalize all americans, it's tired too. I know my government does some shady shit, and I don't condone it. However, I'm still proud of my country. It does a huge amount of good too, and that is what I concentrate on. I'm allowed to say what I want, worship who I want, and I have a good job that puts food on the table. So why wouldn't I reflect positivley on my nation. Fuck the haters.
Quakaveli:
LOL Yall...Irish Thug...Look at history and tha nations that have been on the top of the world...America is fucking super-considerate if you compare US to the superpoweres of the past. Dont be going on with the "its one thing to be on top" bullshit...here are sum examples:-->
Ceaser's Empire...fool was ruthless and took over every damn nation he could
Britian...super imperialists ..were cruel, used evil strategies such as "divide and conquer" which are still hurting some peoples(hindus and muslims in india)...Britain didnt give a shit about anyone but themselves
Look at the Islamic rulers of the past...pathans fucking plundered and raped and destroyed everyplace they went and left the place like shit with no money and in shambles too...
THINK ABOUT ALL THIS SHIT, adn THEN call US bad
Trauma-san:
Here's how the board rolls.
Somebody comments on how negative everything is, it turns into a big debate with christians and muslims getting slammed. Since the muslims rule the board, they slam harder.
Then somebody comes along and says "Oh, lets forget it" and everybody tries to play nice again.
It's like a bad girlfriend.
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