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Weis signs onto the Chiefs (Crennel's coming too)
Chamillitary Click:
--- Quote from: Shallow on January 13, 2010, 06:50:26 PM ---^^^^^^^^^^^^
What does any of that have to do with my theory? Peyton doesn't play to win? Caldwell sure doesn't in weeks 15 and 16, but Peyton was playing to win. I've said otherwise?
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you shit on Brady because of the system he plays in.
if the coach says, "do this, we'll win", you expect him to do otherwise? never understood why you always gave him such grief because he listened to his coach lol.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on January 13, 2010, 06:55:15 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on January 13, 2010, 06:50:26 PM ---^^^^^^^^^^^^
What does any of that have to do with my theory? Peyton doesn't play to win? Caldwell sure doesn't in weeks 15 and 16, but Peyton was playing to win. I've said otherwise?
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you shit on Brady because of the system he plays in.
if the coach says, "do this, we'll win", you expect him to do otherwise? never understood why you always gave him such grief because he listened to his coach lol.
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I don't give him grief for that. My problem with the guy in "do this, we'll win" is that "this" only applies to certain things. Manning functions the same way. He was brought in to Indy and told "do this, we'll win". Manning's "this" was throw amazing passes to covered WRs under pressure from pass rushers. Brady's "this" was throw screens to WRs and let complicated blocking schemes gain yardage. My argument is simple. As it stands it's 3SBs to 1 SB, 4 MVPs to 1 MVP. If they switched teams it would be 4 or 5 SBs to ZERO SBs and 5 MVPs to ZERO MVPs. Because I believe that Manning can do Brady's "this" all day, and when the other "this" is needed to win he could do that too. While I don't think, and it's because I've seen him crumble when he had to(like in SB against NYG, AFC Champ against Indy, Divisional against Den, and last week against Balt), Brady can do Manning's "this". No one ever argued that Scott Pioli and Bill Bellicheck didn't build a better team than Polian, Mora, and Dungy. I don't think Indy could have broken .500 once this decade with out Manning. I did think NE could win 11 games with out Brady. I was right. I can't prove Indy would lose all year, but my insight should count for something.
Chamillitary Click:
^but my argument is that if Peyton came up in New England, he would be running the offense that actually works to win Super Bowls & you wouldn't see his amazing arm.
it doesn't work in all ways that just happen to fit your argument lmao.
if they switched, maybe Tom Brady would be trash in Indy; but Peyton would be throwing screens in New England & you would be shitting on Peyton Manning...for winning lol.
TraceOneInfinite:
It's great to see that Shallow has made such lofty predictions for the Chiefs and Matt Cassell. Hey, I'm on board with you because the Chiefs are my team, sounds like you've made some pretty accurate predictions so I hope your right again.
I also thought it was interesting that Cassel went 11-5 last year, and Brady only went 10-6 this year with basically all the same team.
And Shallow, you predicted that Cassel would crumble, which is technically true because he had a rough year. But I saw every game the Chiefs played this year, and it was NOT Cassel's fault. THE CHIEFS LEAD THE LEAGUE IN DROPPED PASSES AND IN SACKS GIVEN UP. So how can a quarterback operate when your team is leading in such categories? Also, Larry Johnson was still the Chiefs started running back for the first half of the season, and the GUY ONLY AVERAGED 2.7 YARDS A CARRY!! So no threat of a running game for most of the season, all the recievers and tightends except Dwayne Bowe were cut from other teams and picked up by the Chiefs over the course of the season, scrubs like Bobby Wade, Mark Bradley and Lance Long were starters for the Chiefs at different points in the season. Also, two of the starting linemen were also brought in off the streets after being cut from their respective teams during the season.
So when you consider what Matt Cassel had to contend with I would say he did great last season. And don't worry about Croyle being a threat at starter because that guy has never been any good and is like 0-9 as a starter.
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Also, on defense, YES THE CHIEFS GOT CRENNELL. This is a great move. But are you predicting the Chiefs to be in the playoffs? That's a little too ambitious, I think 8-8 is a more practical expectation.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on January 07, 2010, 09:54:44 AM ---you still need players to win.
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Have you seen Jamal Charles?
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